[Chief Joseph]

I don't get the flu vaccine, due to my mistrust in modern medicine and those who develop the vaccines. If I get sick, I see medicine man and take a few shots of fire water to kill the pain and drive out evil spirits.

[Jake Neiffer]

[Jake Neiffer]

[Tom]

[Jake Neiffer]

Agreed Tom, not trying to imply it's epilepsy. Only demonstrate that it's not induced by an egg allergy. I have run across some opposition to the notion that febrile seziures are harmless. Not saying it's true or anything. Here is a Chinese study I recall in that regard. Another illustration that there's side effects beyond an egg allergy. The Japanese government, which seems generally to be more receptive to their citizens concerns about vaccines, actually discontinued the MMR shot back in 1993 due to side effects. Apparently they developed an "MR" vaccine that proved safer. And give the mumps portion separately.

[Tom]

In the rare case (assume 1 in a million for the sake of argument) febrile seizures are harmful that statistic becomes 1 in 3 billion. Not as much shock value as 1 in 3000. Here's the key takeaway from the CDC page you linked to:

[Jake Neiffer]

I don't think I can argue with your above post. I strayed from the flu shot which I probably should not have done. BigSteve makes some good points, and I now agree the initial article was sloppy. But the bottom line for me is this: I'm still not confident in the CDC data, I think they were (maybe still are) misleading. I posted a review of 75 studies that concluded the available evidence is of poor quality and provides no guidance regarding the safety, efficacy or effectiveness of influenza vaccines for people aged 65 years or older. To resolve the uncertainty, an adequately powered publicly-funded randomised, placebo-controlled trial run over several seasons should be undertaken. I posted another review that concluded Studies funded from public sources were significantly less likely to report conclusions favorable to the vaccines. The review showed that reliable evidence on influenza vaccines is thin but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions and spurious notoriety of the studies. The SA article said “The perception that current vaccines are already highly effective in preventing influenza is a major barrier to pursuing game-changing alternatives.” The concerning thing is nobody seemed to even balk at this. My theory is the majority of Americans believe anything the CDC writes is Gospel, but usually don't have a problem questioning other segments of government. My last thought is if you get a flu shot, make sure they stick you in the right location.