[Randito]

[cdestroyer]

RandyHiker wrote: "The essential flaw in CDDestroyers argument is that the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki killed fewer civilians than the firebombing of Tokyo". ya I saw that sight you got the info from....here is the the best data available;;; On a clear night in March 1945, more than 300 U.S. B-29 bombers launched one of the most devastating air raids in history. By dawn, more than 100,000 people were dead, a million were homeless, and 40 square kilometers of Tokyo were burned to the ground. More people were killed in the Tokyo firebombing of March 9-10 than in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki five months later. Yet it remains one of the forgotten horrors of the Second World War. Between February 13th and February 14th 1945, between 35,000 and 135,000 people were killed by Allied bombing in Dresden. Historians still argue over the number of deaths. However, there were so many refugees in the city at the time that the real figure will almost certainly never be known. The real mortality of the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan will never be known. The destruction and overwhelming chaos made orderly counting impossible. It is not unlikely that the estimates of killed and wounded in Hiroshima (150,000) and Nagasaki (75,000) are over conservative. not to mention that many are not counted who died later of radiation sickness......

[Snowbrushy]

[cdestroyer]

(bad word) what do you people use for logic? are you sitting on it? snowbushy says did they drop leaflets before the bombing of japan...the policy makers (idiots in washington d.c.) were pretty pissed off at the "surprise attack" so why would you alert your most hated enemy that you were gonna wipe them off the planet??? oh by the way "surprise attack" I have some info that will set that matter straight... I am loathe to get into a political argument on this site beyond what I have already done. this is supposed to be a nice outdoor bloggy type forum...I doubt that the info I have will make a difference to most of you any way as most of you never think (THINK) about an article instead you post your reply as fast as your emotional attitude will allow.....

[cdestroyer]

RandyHiker wrote The essential flaw in CDDestroyers argument.... boy am I ever slow....I have never used that cddestroyer in this forum but only on a vet forum on yuku..so I can only guess that this person is also on that site since that is the only place I ever used that nick.... I had my fill of the idiots on that vet site and never go there anymore...

[Snowbrushy]

[Randito]

[gb]

On the subject of Hanford NP the one place at Hanford that I would love to have been able to visit is Rattlesnake Mountain but that is not possible because of sacred Native American tradition. I do like the Wahluke National wildlife Refuge.

[cdestroyer]

Snowbrushy wrote: "How about a World Heritage Park, partially owned by Japan like diplomatic grounds. A Peace Park?" there is an international peace park in Hiroshima at the only building left standing after the bombing

[Mike Collins]

[kbatku]

Rattlesnake Mtn is in the process of being allowed to have access - so far the argument seems to be between Natives, who want no access other than their own, hikers - who want foot access, and regular old out of shape Americans who want to be able to drive to the top.

[NacMacFeegle]

Seeing as there is already a road and cell phone towers, I can't see how public access would further degrade the mountain. I do think the road should be opened exclusively to foot and bike access, and that no new developments be made to the area. Regarding the National Park, I think it's a great idea, and I'd certainly like to visit it sometime next year.

[HitTheTrail]

[Snowbrushy]

When I grew up in grade school we would hear the siren and file out of the class room into the hallway where we bent over and closed our eyes tight for the light of the expected blast and waited for the first shock wave. Steven Spielbergs Greatest Generation had bequeathed it's legacy upon myself and other young students. The gym down the hallway was where my cub scout meetings were held. Steven Spielberg was a eagle boy scout. He coined that term. It wouldn't be long before I would have a draft card for the Vietnam War. Somewhere above Two Corps at the top of the jungle river was a special forces officer named Kurtz who said, "Nuke Them All". I learned how to shoot my trainer rifle in the boy scouts.