[joker]

Reports from friends who have been up ski touring is that stuff is melting out quite quickly.

[CC]

[Bedivere]

I thought you got rid of zombies by shooting them in the head?

[albrightmd]

I will post snotel snow water results for May 1 in about a week. April 2016 was the warmest April in western Washington since at least 1926 or 1934, both those years were comparable to April 2016. In fact, the increase over the past 5 years is quite remarkable. At Olympia WA we have gone from a monthly mean temperature of 43.7 F in April 2011 up to 53.2 F in April 2016. April 2008 was also very cold with 44.1 F at Olympia WA.

[gb]

The North Cascades highway shows an incredibly high snow line on south slopes for this time of year. Very high winter snow levels, a record warm month of April, and way more sunshine than normal for the month being the contributors. It looks like mid-late May to early June on most south slopes. Maybe next winter if La Nina develops strongly we will have a one year break anomaly to the increasingly strong warming trend the past several decades. Earlier springs, warmer, drier summers (especially the first half) have been increasingly the norm since the mid-80's.

[albrightmd]

[gb]

Why did you stop the data at 2008? It would be more interesting to include 2014 and 15. Also the data I would most like to see would be average Quillayute annual freezing levels or average 500 mb heights.

[Alpine Pedestrian]

[Slugman]

Maybe the data he had at hand ran through 2008? If you have more recent data, then show it. Oh, and everyone has an agenda, the whole concept of attacking someone over that is one of the least intelligent attacks a person can make. Perhaps you meant a hidden agenda? If so, your comment was even worse, as he is hiding nothing about his opinions. And a "troll"? Maybe his info is what you agree with, maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, but a troll? Ludicrous insult based on nothing. And worst of all, you don't even know what "cherry pick" means! Unbelievable. He posted data for 32 consecutive years, anyone who calls that cherry picking has issues with the English language and the metaphors used therein. Maybe you could have used one minute of your precious time to read his post just before the last one? Where he wrote this? " In fact, the increase over the past 5 years is quite remarkable." So, where is the agenda, where is the cherry picking? In your fevered imagination, and nowhere else. Another candidate for the ignore list.

[Tom]

Sluggy, April fools was last month. Weatherman has been trolling here going on 9 consecutive years. The usernames change but the cherry picking, trolling and agenda remains the same.

[tmatlack]

Early melt out good for hiking; not so good for us whitewater enthusiasts. Example: two weeks ago after hot spell Wenatchee went to 14,000 cfs. That might have been the spring snowmelt climax. Way way too early. Many rafting companies (Orion) had not even started their weekend trips or finished their guide trainings. Tom

[Pyrites]

My memory says that for decades that snow pack on April 1 of the year was the metric looked at. This seemed reasonable as the maximum water equivalent (a better metric than snow depth) consistently occurred shortly before or after that date. Has anyone instead looked at date snow pack is gone, or nearly so (40cm?) at the SNOTEL sites over the years. If there is about the same amount of water on 4/1, but it is gone by 6/1 instead of 7/5, isn't that a real change as well?

[drm]

[albrightmd]

[drm]

From Scientific American: Catastrophic Canadian Wildfire Is a Sign of Destruction to Come