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Eric Willhite
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PostFri Oct 14, 2016 11:49 pm 
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As always, any info on this one, please contact me.

The location seems like it was designed for a tower but the only reported structure here was just a cabin in the 1930s.

I believe a Winter Hikes book or Footsore book made mention of a lookout at this location.  I don't have the book so if someone could check.  Trying to find out if a tower was ever built here when the road came here, or was one planned but never built.

The top...as boring as it looks....do not go here.
The top...as boring as it looks....do not go here.
You've probably driven right by this.
You've probably driven right by this.

PAGE ON BIG QUILCENE LOOKOUT

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PostSat Oct 15, 2016 8:25 am 
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Did you see or do you know if there's any evidence of the old Notch Trail from the 1940s map? It's right near the junction of the Big Quil and Mt. Townsend creek.

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PostSat Oct 15, 2016 9:38 am 
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I printed some old maps of it when I was researching, thinking it would be fun to find.  You could see the old trail in places on the 1951 aerial after a big fire in the 40's removed the trees on the east side of the ridge.  Then I found on a Forest Service website them saying they restored the trail some time ago.  I believe it is signed from the road.  Some blogs said it was a nice hike in the woods, and you won't see anyone.

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PostSat Oct 15, 2016 10:39 am 
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trestle wrote:
old Notch Trail from the 1940s map?

The "Notch Pass Trail #831" shows up on the CalTopo MapBuilder overlay.
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PostSat Oct 15, 2016 12:54 pm 
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1935 map

(scroll down just a bit in that thread for a 1936 map)

1933 map

links to more maps

1932 map

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PostSat Oct 15, 2016 1:32 pm 
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They could have some info at the Quilcene Museum or maybe you already checked there.

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PostSun Oct 16, 2016 2:23 pm 
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the unknown metal object in one of the photos appears to be a fragment of rohn antenna tower.
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PostSun Oct 16, 2016 4:06 pm 
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marzsit wrote:
appears to be a fragment of rohn antenna tower

Yes, I'm going to change that photo and info about the concrete slab.  I asked Ray Kresek and he gave me the following response..."looks to me like what’s left of a Rohn-25 antenna tower, probably erected sometime in the 1970s when ham (amateur) radio clubs were putting up the first repeater sites;  or perhaps a logging company for the same.  Typically, the towers were 1”EMT conduit type pipe with 3/8” round galvanized rod for the Z braces, planted in about a yard of concrete, with a concrete slab for the radio shack."

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PostSun Oct 16, 2016 5:45 pm 
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Road to this summit first appears on the 1968 Olympic NF map.  It doesn't appear on the 1962 USGS map or any earlier maps, so apparently was built in the mid-'60s.  I've found no map showing a trail or fire lookout existed there.
(Note a USArmy/USGS/USFS triangulation station QUILCENE 3726 is located on the eastern promontory of Green Mountain, 3 miles due north along the Quilcene Range.  No road, trail or lookout structure there.  But I read an acoount by a USFS retiree recalling being sent up there repeatedly on foot after lightning storms to look for smokes, so it must have a good view.  And there was a large lightning-caused fire on that ridge, in the '60s?)

Trestle, the Notch Pass Trail appears on all 1930s, '40s and '50s USFS and USGS maps.  CCC Quilcene used it as a shortcut from the Penny Creek CCC Camp to work sites on the Rainbow (Big Quilcene) Trail.

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PostWed Oct 26, 2016 4:19 pm 
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there was a "ROHN 25" section of tower there.
it was sawed off and used as a base section for a new tower
cant recall just when..think 70,s
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PostWed Oct 26, 2016 5:44 pm 
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Eric...the Big Quilcene lookout is indeed in Footsore 3.  All Harvey Manning mentions is that the lookout tower is gone. Not much info there.    cool.gif

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PostTue Nov 22, 2016 1:56 pm 
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Pretty sure I took a wrong turn en route to Mt. Townsend this summer and was surprised to arrive at this place. Good spot for a bonfire and 12 pack (if you clean up after yourself).
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PostThu Dec 08, 2016 6:41 pm 
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Eric Willhite wrote:
I believe a Winter Hikes book or Footsore book made mention of a lookout at this location

Eric, not only does Footsore 3 very briefly mention Big Quilcene as a site of a former lookout, but my friend Bob Mooers' Winter Hikes devotes a whole section to " Big Quilcene Lookout."  He describes how to get there in Hike 53 and provides this comment on page 164: "It's a sad refrain, but the lookout is gone. The lookout site gets a lot of attention from the noise-toys crowd, so do "the Big Q" as deep into the snowy season as weather conditions  allow."  He gives no details about the lookout itself, which isn't surprising because historical insight wasn't the purpose of his long out-of-print book. Amazon lists this book with used copies, and it is a good one even with the shortage of history.

By reading sources included in this thread by Rod F, yourself, and others, it seems that the Big Quilcene Lookout existed only on paper but not in lumber.
Or if it existed, they did the most complete job ever of removing all unmistakable evidence such as concrete foundation blocks, glass fragments, etc.

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PostThu Dec 08, 2016 8:35 pm 
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The old Notch trail exists and received some love in recent times. I hiked the western portion last year down to Bark Shanty camp on the Big Quillicene. Also located the eastern trailhead. A pleasant walk, but no real views. A good forest service road will take you to the pass from the west.
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