[Conrad]

[Ski]

I didn't think my comment was any more ridiculous than the idea that simply posting a few signs and designating an area a "no shooting zone" was going to make all the target shooters just magically disappear. Here's some emoticons for you: okay now?

[Brucester]

If only things like this would "magically disappear."

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While looking for a car camping spot..... 5510 rd north of Stampede Pass.

[snoqpass]

Looks like the snow crushed it, sad that people leave this stuff

[Ski]

What a mess! I hope it wasn't the propane stove exploding that blew the side of that thing out. Must be too far off for the shooters - I don't see any bullet holes and the headlights are still intact! (Kind of odd that somebody removed the front grill assembly... wonder what they were after?) Gotta love it - another mess of crap for NFS to clean up and dispose of. On the positive side: it will make great habitat for bats. Somebody left a great big trailer like that about 200 yards behind our cabin up on the Nisqually at it turned into bat heaven.

[Brucester]

On my way to a hike last weekend:

Outside of Darrington on 530. Would make a nice art studio or chicken coop?

[Ski]

art studio - no. bad lighting. chicken coop - a possibility, but it would be hell to clean. sheep cote - possibly a more appropriate use (overhead storage for hay would come in handy.) does NFS know about these locations? that's going to cost some bucks to clean those two sites up.

[treeswarper]

Advertise them and sell them as "vintage project" trailers.

[Randito]

[Brucester]

Sorry, I didn't mean to drift off topic. So yesterday I went back to the TH with clean up gear. To do something on this foul weather weekend. On my way up I stopped at the place 'one would if headed to Scout Lake, an unofficial route to a "so so" lake seldom visited. I stopped out of curiosity, I asked the target shooters if it was legal to shoot there. They informed me that on the NFS website a "safety corridor" meant certain places might be ok to shoot at. I listened yet was under the understanding that the entire road was off limits to such activities. This area in particular concerns me because I once rounded a corner to be face to face with an archer aimed up the decommissioned road. Not exactly at me but in my approximate direction. Pretty scary. I left this couple with me needing to look into the NFS website when I'd get home. Further up, at the end of the road, at the official designated FS Hansen Creek or Ridge Trail Head, another pair of target shooters with the same "it's ok to shoot here, Safety Corridor" information that I wasn't familiar with. Me not knowing and not anyone but some person looking to pick up litter on a rainy Sunday, not much I could say. I did voice my concern about vandalism that I've seen on this road and all the litter left behind by target shooters. I just asked if they could leave the area cleaner than they found it. They seemed agreeable in regards to cleanliness and respecting the forest which was cool. I was going to leave them the heavy duty trash bags I bought before heading up but they weren't cheap, 10 bucks for 10. So I get home after a side trip and look at the FS website and I also looked at various gun enthusiast websites, articles on I90 target shooting. I can totally see their point of view, how there's nowhere to shoot. But I also have seen what some bad apples have left behind on this road, the Middle Fork and North Fork roads and it wasn't pretty. Lots of "it's not my mess so it's not my responsibility" going around. Funny I'm a non gun owner and I'm packing out shells and broken glass in my day pack. So you can see how folks feel about all of this. The gun websites were enlightening and I'm not on either side. I just hate seeing garbage in the woods. I found it ironic that the closer to the Hansen Trail Head the less of the No Shooting signs were on the posts specifically there for them. In minds eye out of sight/ out of mind, then it's be ok? Not really because closer to Tinkham there are signs all over the place. But this might be confusing to those "not from the area" of which I've heard that line a dozen times. Like they didn't know. The signs I saw yesterday that others somehow missed seeing:

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And the ones removed from their posts:

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I did see other users on the Hansen Creek area that would warrant a safe corridor. I stopped and talked with a female rock hound and saw a dad with is boy checking out the creek maybe car camping. No mountain bikers but I did see a rig with a bike rack at the TH. Also in another area mushroom hunters. So these areas are used for lots of activities. Be safe, get out and enjoy the forest regardless of the weather.

[Ski]

[MultiUser]

[Dave Workman]

[Chico]

Trailers and such in the woods - With somewhat of a grin I'd tell you to get State Parks on it. Why I say that is we began to report a trailer in worse shape than this parked beneath power lines at Nisqually State Park. Being under the power lines it was more a BPA responsibility. But State Parks was on the case. Went and took a look and somehow (not sure how) tracked down the owner who came and hauled it away. Pays to know the person in charge I guess.

[trestle]