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PostThu Jul 06, 2017 1:48 pm 
I'm looking for a cheap (but not trash bag) stuff sack for my down sleeping bag. I stopped by the Mont-Bell store in downtown PDX today and saw a GoreText stuff sack for a reasonable price ($18) https://www.montbell.us/products/disp.php?cat_id=14026&p_id=1123658 I'd never seen a stuff sack made of GoreText before. Has anyone used one? Overkill? The price is cheaper than Hyperlite's waterproof sacks, but likely heavier.

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PostThu Jul 06, 2017 1:58 pm 
Not sure what the advantage is and the downsides are significant.

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PostThu Jul 06, 2017 1:59 pm 
What are the downsides?

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PostThu Jul 06, 2017 3:27 pm 
Heavier and less waterproof, especially after a few seasons. More expensive. 1.9 oz silicon impregnated nylon is my preferred material for stuff sacks / compression bags.

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PostThu Jul 06, 2017 6:54 pm 
A lot of cottage industry people are now making Cuben stuff sacks. HMG sacks seem to be the most expensive. They are rather simple to make. I have made a ton of them (you can get cuben by the half yard). Even if you don't have a sewing machine you can just tape them together with cuben tape or a lot of the 3M tape available on Amazon.

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PostThu Jul 06, 2017 8:05 pm 
I'd be interested in any good reason for a GoreTex stuff sack. Carry your hamster in it?

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PostFri Jul 07, 2017 5:10 am 
The Sea to Summit Ultra-Sil Dry Sacks are a great option. Depending on the size of your sleeping bag their 8 or 13 liter sacks weigh 1.1 & 1.4 ounces respectively. There are some compression sacks that use eVent or similar to let the air escape without a vent valve. I wouldn't want to use one on a down bag, they pack down fine without a compression sack. I make my hamster carry his own gear bag, use a leash, and carry his pellets out.

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PostFri Jul 07, 2017 7:52 am 
There are the caveats "actual color may vary" and "Product is available in multiple colors, option for customer selection not available" My guess is that this is what they do with surplus fabric, old colors, etc. and not because Gore Tex offers any great advantage when used in a stuff sack.

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PostFri Jul 07, 2017 9:26 am 
patrickbeeson wrote:
What are the downsides?
More fragile, more expensive, less waterproof and heavier. In other words, GTX is the wrong material for the application. GTX is designed to use body heat to push out moisture. Years ago a bud make a black GTX stuff sack for bicycle touring. His idea was to strap it on his back rack and the sun would warm up the black bag. He reported that it didn't work as well as a polyurethane-coated truly waterproof sack (until the PU deteriorates). I plan to make some CF bags. Hit, I'll be sending a PM your way re CF supplier and CF specs.

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PostFri Jul 07, 2017 11:14 am 
I wondering how hard it would be to add a roll top closure to a DIY CF bag. There's plenty of 3/4 inch plastic buckles out there, you just need to stiffen the top with maybe some double/triple ply and seam tape? I really prefer a completely waterproof roll-top bag, and not just a water resistant stuff sack.

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PostFri Jul 07, 2017 1:45 pm 
I've made ripstop rolltop bags using PTFE sheet for the stiffener. You can sew right through it with an industrial machine.

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PostSat Jul 08, 2017 8:17 am 
You could use lightweight nylon webbing to both stiffen the stuff sack and attach the buckles.

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