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Kim Brown
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PostThu Jul 27, 2017 10:22 pm 
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Now that the tree ID issue is solved, now I'm trying to figure out why you people need to clean up in the first place. Just put dirt on the sap so it is no longer sticky, which I think we can agree is the gist of the problem.

Then you forget about the sap, and one day it hits you: "hey, I had sap all over myself not too long ago," and you can't even remember where it was.

One should always have going to meetin' clothes in the closet; those that you don't wear to work outdoors. That way, you have your outfit for years of baptisms, bar/bat mitzvah's, church, socials, weddings - all taken care of.

Or you can be like me and weasel out of events.  up.gif
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PostFri Jul 28, 2017 8:01 am 
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Thanks all for the great discussion.  I guess I got the photo of the wrong trunk, is the consensus.  I blame exhaustion (all photos taken going down).  And now I don't feel as bad for thinking all these firs and hemlocks look alike  smile.gif

I did recognize the cedar as a cedar, but did not know which species.

I am also a fan of the rub dirt on it school of sap treatment!
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PostFri Jul 28, 2017 10:48 am 
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Dammit!  I tried to get a more focused picture but either me or my lens did not cooperate.  I noticed that the DFs around here are forming buds and you can kind of see that they will be pointy.  Sorry about the picture quality.  This was a very happy tree growing on the west side of the Cascades in a working forest.



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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 12:27 am 
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I am in North Idaho and really want to learn to identify trees in the area, can anyone recommend a definitive book, maybe a DVD or website?  Google helped some but I need more specific info, especially given that I have no background in Dendrology.

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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 2:11 am 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
I am in North Idaho and really want to learn to identify trees in the area, can anyone recommend a definitive book, maybe a DVD or website?  Google helped some but I need more specific info, especially given that I have no background in Dendrology.

http://www.idahoforests.org/img/pdf/treesofidaho.pdf




http://www.uidaho.edu/-/media/UIdaho-Responsive/Files/Extension/forestry/Big-Tree-Program/Idaho-Registry-of-Champion-Big-Trees-Nov-2016.ashx?la=en&hash=543B70E33532059E749A4398843ACFA0958D83AA


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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 6:11 am 
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This one is free and online.  Go to page 74 for tree id.  I have the soft copy book which was out of print for a while.

https://www.ibsp.idaho.gov/IdahoLogScalingManual-2008%20Edition%20%28print%29.pdf

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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 6:41 am 
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Learned this from my next door neighbour.

Vegetable oil. Rub veggie oil on dry dirty hands, or sap. (He prefers EVO), then dish suds and hot water. Magic!

Sometimes you need to clean up for that event right after.
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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 8:08 am 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
I am in North Idaho and really want to learn to identify trees in the area, can anyone recommend a definitive book, maybe a DVD or website?  Google helped some but I need more specific info, especially given that I have no background in Dendrology.

The best book I've seen is this one by Steven Arno with illustrations by Rebecca Hammersley:

It really covers the entire west except maybe extreme SW and goes far beyond tree identification, delving into habitats of particular tree species.

I don't have a copy but have read it. As cheap as it is online I should pick up a copy.

A very complete website is this one which covers conifers around the world and provides detailed overviews of each species as well as links to any number of more technical articles. It is a great website to bookmark. The gymnosperm database Most of the trees we are interested in are under Pineaceae

And on removing pitch from the hands/clothes in the field sandy dirt, as Kim says, works easily. Shortly after dirt is applied the pitch begins to wear off. By the end of the day there will be none left.
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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 9:32 am 
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There is an app, currently for Android only, called "Trees PNW" which helps to identify the different North West trees.  Cliff Cantor, a long time WTA, volunteer published the app. It contains lots of pictures and written descriptions.  Cliff has told me that the iPhone version is in beta testing.

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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 11:50 am 
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gb wrote:
The best book I've seen is this one by Steven Arno with illustrations by Rebecca Hammersley:

It really covers the entire west except maybe extreme SW and goes far beyond tree identification, delving into habitats of particular tree species.

+1 That's a great field guide for WA mountain trees. Hammerly's drawings are fantastic.

I'm a Sibley's bird book fan, but was greatly disappointed by Sibley's attempt at a tree guide. Don't bother. Get the Arno/Hammerly guide.
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PostThu Dec 28, 2017 12:58 pm 
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Thanks so much! Just ordered the book on ebay used for 4 bucks.

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