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Foist Sultan of Sweat
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:11 pm
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If you're a lawyer, you must be too far out to remember first-year torts! Palsgraf was decided based on scope of the duty, not causation. It was held that LIRR did not have a duty to prevent a harm that was too remote and unlikely to be foreseeable. Although you are correct that Palsgraf has practically zero relevance in today's legal world.
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16088 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
I never stated that Palsgraf is current law only that it is a classic discussion of causation and a good read to boot. In the case of bone dry forests the actual cause is the dryness of the forest and not the spark that sets it off like a package of fireworks dropped on railroad tracks. In the case of forests the cause of dryness is likely impossible to assign but the danger is readily foreseeable.
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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MtnGoat Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 11992 | TRs | Pics Location: Lyle, WA |
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:55 pm
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Malachai Constant wrote: | it will burn be it from a discarded cigarette, lightning, bottle bottom in sunlight, arson, unattended campfire, railroad brake, catalytic converter on grass, or spontaneous combustion. |
The bottle buisness is not BS, I had a deck catch on fire here a few summers ago, in August. We'd been playing in the pool with a big clear acrylic marble about 2" across. Toss it in the pool for a hide and seek game, it's real hard to see!
Anyway it got left on the deck and the next day the 2PM sun on a hot day resulted in a fire starting under the marble and consuming it and about 8 feet of decking. I was *super* lucky the neighbor was out gardening and caught it, running my hose over and putting it out.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16088 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
The bottle business is from personal experience.
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
"You do not laugh when you look at the mountains, or when you look at the sea." Lafcadio Hearn
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cartman Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 2800 | TRs | Pics Location: Fremont |
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:19 pm
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Naches Hiker wrote: | Washington is going to be in trouble if the next month stays dry and warm. |
I read recently that on average the snowpack is at its deepest on April 1. And the next several weeks are forecast to be colder than average for this time of year. So there is still time for the pack to thicken.
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cartman Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 2800 | TRs | Pics Location: Fremont |
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Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:23 pm
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treeswarper wrote: | no major fires in all areas |
Say what? Last year's fire in the Pasaytens burned a significant portion of the area from Billy Goat Mtn all the way to the border.
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Bedivere Why Do Witches Burn?
Joined: 25 Jul 2008 Posts: 7464 | TRs | Pics Location: The Hermitage |
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Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:53 pm
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MtnGoat wrote: | Malachai Constant wrote: | it will burn be it from a discarded cigarette, lightning, bottle bottom in sunlight, arson, unattended campfire, railroad brake, catalytic converter on grass, or spontaneous combustion. |
The bottle buisness is not BS, I had a deck catch on fire here a few summers ago, in August. We'd been playing in the pool with a big clear acrylic marble about 2" across. Toss it in the pool for a hide and seek game, it's real hard to see!
Anyway it got left on the deck and the next day the 2PM sun on a hot day resulted in a fire starting under the marble and consuming it and about 8 feet of decking. I was *super* lucky the neighbor was out gardening and caught it, running my hose over and putting it out. |
Wow, that's crazy! I'm glad it didn't burn your house down but if it had, I wonder what the fire investigators would have thought...?
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Schroder Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 6696 | TRs | Pics Location: on the beach |
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Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:31 pm
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
I wonder when the bathtubs will be melted out this year?
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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gb Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 6303 | TRs | Pics
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Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:15 am
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Pretty good to excellent snow depths at moderate to high elevations as of this weekend. Mt. Baker hit 209" today and Paradise 200". I didn't check today but Baker yesterday reported 270" at the top of the ski area. I would imagine that above 5500-6000' north and 6500-7000' south snow depths are probably 350", enough to make a good snowman.
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Schroder Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 6696 | TRs | Pics Location: on the beach |
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Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:00 am
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150" today at Stevens Pass
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timberghost Member
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Schroder Member
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:20 am
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FiresideChats Member
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BigBrunyon Member
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It'll melt over the summer though.
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