[huron]

For years, I've been trying to figure out exactly what this inkblot represents.

[MtnGoat]

[joker]

Indeed. Some existing rules such as no spray in TRs and keeping the politics in the Stewardship forum should help. For better or worse thread drift is only controlled (and I use that word loosely) by social norms.

[snoqpass]

[FUN CH]

[contour5]

The kundalini is strong in this thread. Please, elaborate further.

[FUN CH]

Thanks for that reference, I checked it out. Lots of good wisdom in that philosophy and something that I can relate to, as it explains a lot.

[FUN CH]

The following post I made after the new Administration took control last year and addresses some of the issues that Joker raised above concerning liable. I never wrote anything that I didn't have facts to back up or that I believed were true. If it was just speculation on my part I stated that. I'm not quite sure that banning someone without forewarning and then deleting every piece of work I did there is Honorable. It seems that TAY is a dying website. Marcus had stated that other social media was replacing that type of TAY format when he was getting out.That 'changing hands' thread is no longer there and I was kind of surprised there was not a lot more thank you's directed towards Marcus. Mine might have been the first and only. There are actually people on that site that were blaming me for it's apparent demise. Maybe the Divergent cleansing was a business move to try to revive that site. But I have to ask the question. Does a site really exist as community resource by silencing it's members point of view, especially when that POV addresses Public Safety and public land issues. https://web.archive.org/web/20170721024207/http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=38070.0;all "Dear nch and ncmg- i sent a pm to the admin. here and requested that if you guys find any of my posts to be improper or that i am not being accurate in my posts-just pm me or the admin and those posts will be gladly removed from the site. i'm not here to defame any guides or your companies, and try to be accurate and truthful in my reporting. I'm here to give other bc skiers in my community an idea of what it is like to have to be a public land watch dog and deal with the conflict (safety,social and envoirnmental) that comes from having to re-create and share terrain with motorized helicopter access to our sacred mountains. And please know that you are most welcome to join the conversation, as your pov on these issues is missing and would be educational. thank you, chris"

[Layback]

[trestle]

I understand a lot of us are on multiple forums but why air dirty laundry all over the neighborhood? Makes no sense to me and given the thread title and ranting nature of the op, hard to believe anything safety-related will be accomplished. Oh well, back to my cave.

[FUN CH]

Well I'd post at TAY but you know, DELETED and BANNED. This Thread is to tell my story and experiences at TAY, where I was addressing public safety issues as well as conflict issues on public land. This particular Thread is more aimed at understanding then safety. For example: One of the issues I talked about at TAY was confirmation bias. An understanding of that human factor, which we are all subject too, may also help with decision making because we are influenced by our own and group bias when we do risk analysis in the backcountry. The following thread end post is an example of confirmation bias. http://www.turns-all-year.com/skiing_snowboarding/trip_reports/index.php?topic=38115.25 Quote: "Several people have speculated the NWAC deleted the observation because the poster's handle ("vague observations for money") made the whole thing sound bogus. That seems like a reasonable conclusion to me." In the above post the poster and several other members there are drawing a conclusion based upon zero evidence of the facts other than that nwac observation post was deleted. The facts are; on the morning of March 2nd, I made a valid observation on NWAC concerning two significant Avalanches that I saw on March 1st and that observation was deleted from the nwac site on March 3rd. On March 4th we had our first local BC skier avy related fatality. The fact that Naturals were occurring on the storm layer that was ultimately triggered and led to that fatality is a significant observation in my opinion. Nwac, as an organization administered by the forest service had no right to delete that post. They had my phone number and my e-mail address and could have asked for clarification. I assure you sure you that there will be an investigation into this matter. On March 5th, nwac posted on their Twitter account the following message with a link to a powder magazine article. https://mobile.twitter.com/nwacus/status/970803733327237121 "Withholding information about avalanches is crazy…and dangerous" I agree.

[Randito]

Only someone with some sort of "social blindness" would post information under the handle "vague observations for money" and expect to be taken seriously.

[Tom]

See posting terms here: https://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8017231 The idea is that users add value to the site and bring positive contributions. Nothing wrong with a little drama here but negativity, long diatribes, etc. don't inspire confidence.