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PostMon Apr 02, 2018 7:24 am 
Eric Willhite wrote:
Where is Warkum Point you ask.....I made a 15 minute video of this adventure. Enjoy.....
I did, and it's apparent that you put a lot of effort into this video, physical as well as the research. Nicely done.

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PostMon Apr 02, 2018 7:53 am 
Great video! Enjoyed watching the journey.

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PostMon Apr 02, 2018 11:52 am 
Cool spot, really nice work on the video!

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PostMon Apr 02, 2018 12:26 pm 
Classic Olympic route-finding by following telephone insulators, Eric! up.gif Great video. Thank you for sharing your quest. I searched through Olympic National Park's "Building Log", a bound book in Park archives, and found this entry: Building #708, "A. Warning Station, Indian Pass, Boga.", built: "1942", structure: "frame", "177 sq. ft.", utilities (WSET): "none", value "$796", Const. by: "NPS-USFS-AWS funds". The entry is crossed out in red ink with the notation "Destroyed RS 8149N00565". On the same page, it list the "Geodesic Peak AWS" as destroyed under the same RS project number (also the Skater's Shelter on Lake Dawn). So this confirms that NPS burned it down. I haven't retrieved and don't have the exact date of that RS. It's one of several under which about a third of the roughly 1,500 inventoried structures in the Park were destroyed, including several resorts including Olympic Hot Springs. (Plus many miners, hunters and homesteaders buildings that were never even entered into the Park's inventory, so aren't listed. There were 2500 private inholdings within the Park when it was created.) This was a Park policy started under Sup't. Roger Allin and continued under Roger Contor to "cleanse" the Park backcountry of structures, to make it conform with their reading of the intent of the Wilderness Act, so future visitors might imagine no one had stood there before them. Visitors like you, and we your readers, actually find our experience enriched by finding telephone insulators or stove pipes, or knowing that we're standing where an AWS observer searched the sky, or a homesteader tilled his garden, or USFS built a trail, or a tribe caught and dried salmon every summer for centuries. We mourn the NPS' destruction of its own history, of our history. One of the wonderous elements of wilderness is that evidence of history can survive; NPS may burn it down but at least can't bulldoze and pave it over. Alas, this policy of deliberate destruction continues today (1935 CCC-built Elwha Campground Community Kitchen, 1930 Enchanted Valley Chalet, 1907 and 1920 Elwha Basin Trail and other elements of the USFS Trail System Cultural Landscape, all eligible or listed on the National Register of Historic Places). Any guess where they got water? They may have found a spring nearby.

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PostWed Apr 04, 2018 12:36 am 
Wow. Lookout Obscura. Horse pack supply to Indian Pass? Origination of name? Have you bumped up against payroll records in your research? Has ONP ever put out a history pamphlet about the AWS? Pretty decent out and back, including route discovery, in a day hike. Best. Pyrites

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PostWed Apr 04, 2018 7:59 am 
Well done, Eric. You are a good researcher.
RodF wrote:
We mourn the NPS' destruction of its own history, of our history.
Indeed. Two other examples among many are removal by helicopter (I saw it happening) of an ancient truck from the former FS horse pasture at the base of Little Jack Mountain, and complete removal, down to the base logs, of a small old cabin adjacent to SR20 somewhere near East Creek trailhead. Neither of those are even in NCNP, but merely in Ross Lake National Recreation Area. Did they figure the highway itself isn't visually or emotionally a detractor from the "wilderness experience?" Sure, the guardrails are left unpainted to look more natural..... It seems hypocritical to me. In grest contrast, I find it admirable that you, Eric, leave artifacts in place. I have followed your footsteps to some remote former lookout sites and see rusty stuff lying about, just as it was when the lookout was destroyed.

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PostWed Apr 04, 2018 5:06 pm 
Great find, research and video Eric. You certainly have a knack for finding these remote locations. I'm so glad you are documenting them and sharing the information for us armchair lookout guys. Lovely music and certainly a lot of hard work went into your great video. Thanks!!! cool.gif

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PostThu Apr 05, 2018 11:59 am 
Pyrites wrote:
Has ONP ever put out a history pamphlet about the AWS? Have you bumped up against payroll records in your research?
NPS has an article Coastal Defenses in Olympic National Park in World War II. NPS mentions AWS' impact on specific sites (Kalaloch, Pyramid Peak, trail and telephone system maintenance, etc.) in the Park's administrative histories, but not an overview or comprehensive history of AWS. AWS funds kept Olympic NP's major trails open and the backcountry telephone system working through most of the war, as part of and despite of the wartime priorities that had removed manpower and funds from Parks nationwide.
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Origination of name?
Smitty Parratt in "Gods and Goblins" says it's not known. (It sounds like a Chinook name to me.)
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Horse pack supply to Indian Pass?
Definitely, the entire Snider-Jackson Trail from the Sol Duc to the Hoh was built using pack stock. Warkum AWS was a frame not log structure so the materials must've been packed most or all the way up to Warkum Point. Bogachiel Ranger Station, located near the intersection of Indian Pass Trail, had a small horse barn.

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PostThu Apr 05, 2018 12:36 pm 
Amazing ... love the backstory, your story and the video .... well done!!! up.gif up.gif up.gif

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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 4:13 am 
Another good one Eric. I've lived in Forks for over 40 years and had never heard about that lookout compared to the others you have reported on and a couple you haven't been to yet. Great research as usual.

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PostSun Apr 08, 2018 8:02 am 
Awesome! So glad you're still out cataloging these smile.gif up.gif

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PostMon Apr 09, 2018 7:36 am 
Very cool...thanks for sharing!

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