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FiresideChats
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Certainly. It's more about when trails open up and stream runoff. I am curious about our local glacier recession. Do we have a glacier monitoring thread anywhere? I don't see one. (Besides the 599 page global warming thread.)
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iron
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 Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:56 pm |
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| BigBrunyon wrote: | | It'll melt over the summer though. |
kind of like every year for the history of mankind?
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iron
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Wed Apr 18, 2018 8:37 pm |
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even in the ice age, the margins of the snow and ice surely had seasonal melting, otherwise the whole planet would've been covered.
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I'm Pysht
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| Jeff wrote: | | Except the ice age. |
We're in the midst of an ice age.
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NorthBen
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:52 am |
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| iron wrote: | | otherwise the whole planet would've been covered. |
This was waaay before the history of mankind but I can't miss an opportunity to bring up the time that the entire Earth was covered in ice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth
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kbatku
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Thu Apr 19, 2018 9:54 am |
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| George Johnson wrote: | | Jeff wrote: | | Except the ice age. |
We're in the midst of an ice age. |
Except, no.
My geology prof said we are in the middle of an unusually stable period of climate activity that started around 10,000 years ago - coincidental with the dawn of civilization. He said that prior to that the Earth experienced what we would call "wild" fluctuations in temperature, and for some unknown reason these fluctuations stabilized around the end of the last ice age.
He claimed that's why it was so vital for people to be nomadic way back when, because they had to move all the time to keep up with or stay ahead of the habitable regions of the Earth, avoiding droughts and snow cover etc...
His contention was that the stabilization of the global climate led to the dawn of civilization, because weather became more predictable, allowing people to settle in one area and establish cities and agriculture and other accouterments of what we would call civilization
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BigBrunyon
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I don't know about the Ice Age cause I wasn't around then. I can only speak from experience, and experience tells me it will melt away during the summer 
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Riverside Laker
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The last ice age was 1998-99 when we had 200% snow pack. Fire Creek Pass never melted completely, so I carried an ice axe from Snoqualmie Pass to Stehekin just for the 50 feet of ice age that happened that year. But then global warming melted it, and it was an easy stroll on trail the next time through there.
None of that is nearly as bad as going to school when I was a kid. Had to walk 10 miles in a snowstorm, both ways uphill, barefoot. Then a similar walk to deliver newspapers after school.
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jinx'sboy
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| Riverside Laker wrote: | | Had to walk 10 miles in a snowstorm, both ways uphill, barefoot. |
....hmm.. It WAS dark, wasn't it?
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thunderhead
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| Quote: | | We're in the midst of an ice age.
Except, no. |
It all depends on how far back you look. Relative to the history of homo sapiens, we are in a warmer inter-glacial period... not an ice age.
Relative to the history of advanced life on earth in general... we are much colder and therefore in an "ice age".
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Adohrn
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Fri Apr 20, 2018 12:20 pm |
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Yea yea if you want to be technical we are currently in an ice age. It started 2.6 million years ago, and won’t end until the artic and antarctic ice sheets completely go away. Right now we are experiencing an interglacial period or specifically Holocene which is basically an unusual period of stable climate. Been there for the the last 10,000 years. Without the Holocene most likely no agriculture and we would still be hunter gathers. Likelyhood that the Holocene is not rapidly coming to an end, and that ice sheets will be with us much longer is not so good. What happens then good question Mad Max or if you live in Kansas Kumbaya, pina colades and ocean front property.
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Schroder
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:33 am |
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It's melting out fast. End of May measurements:
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gb
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:41 am |
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Well, it was ridiculously warm and sunny in May. Where the lower than average snowpack really shows up is east of the Cascades. The snowpack there was less than normal anyway and now, say, in the Teanaway it is far advanced for this time of year. Stuart looks about three weeks ahead of normal in meltout.
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iron
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Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:48 am |
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well, this has been the trend for most of the 2010's, right (minus 2011)?
generally good snowpack to start. hot starts to the summer. bad snow year by the end of the summer.
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