[cambajamba]

Just so we're clear, are you saying that either I'm a poor backcountry user, or falsifying my testimony?

[coldrain108]

[Schenk]

When you know for a fact you are in the right, go ahead and challenge the so called "enforcer" to contact authorities and to ask them to come out and make an arrest. The "enforcer" will either back down, or be corrected and/or reprimanded. Just make sure you're right... I have used this tactic in Montana when I was was being harassed by a nearby landowner, but I was in full compliance of the Montana Stream law. It worked...land owner reprimanded, I kept fishing with the Sheriff's blessing.

[cambajamba]

[hbb]

The payment envelopes in the little kiosk by the entrance have a box you can check indicating that you have the Interagency Annual Pass (aka America the Beautiful Pass). It's been that way for as long as I can remember; I've been there several times a year for at least the past 15 years. I was just there two weeks ago, and filled out the little envelope and dropped it in the box, and passed the gauntlet of volunteers without incident. You should definitely contact the regional office and voice your concerns.

[Schenk]

[RumiDude]

Many time the volunteers have radios. At that time of the morning you could have asked them to radio in to HQ so to speak and get confirmation about your America the Beautiful Annual Pass being valid. Another alternative is to use your phone to get to the website. I am not sure if there is reception out there so this may not work, but you could try it. Regardless I always recommend being polite and calm. It just helps. But I also recommend being insistent. That means asking for names and such. Using your cell phone video recording to assist, get a record of them telling you their names and telling you that your pass is not enough. That demonstrates you are serious and that you are not going to take this passively. (Sometimes people with badges or uniforms can get all "officially" because it "goes to their head", even volunteers. The one thing I am not clear on is does the pass cover everyone in your group or just the pass holder/s out on the Dungeness Spit? I am not sure, but several years ago I used it for both me and my friend to go out onto the Spit. Rumi

[bobbi]

[Bedivere]

I can't understand walking away. I'd have told him to get stuffed and continued on my way. Let him do whatever he thinks he has to, it's going to be on him when it turns out you were completely in the right.

[moonspots]

[moonspots]

[cambajamba]

[cambajamba]

[boot up]

I ran into this at a "national park" in the Sedona AZ area. Apparently when the govt hands our parks over to a concessionaire, they can charge whatever they want and ignore the National Park pass. I pulled up to the booth to get in, noticed the sign over the guys head said my pass was sufficient, and he insisted I had to pay in addition to the pass, and was aggressive and basically an A-hole in his attitude. I tried to politely point out the "misunderstanding", and the sign, and his response was to walk away, with the gate locked, and disappeared for 20 minutes, claiming parking was full, even though I could see a number of open parking spots. After a long smoke break, where I could see him, he came back and asked for money again. I ended up paying, but that left me with bad feelings about the place for the rest of the day.

[Randito]

The America the Beautiful pass website provides this PDF list of sites where it is honored. https://store.usgs.gov/s3fs-public/PassIssuanceList.pdf Dungeness is listed: