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PostSat Oct 13, 2018 8:11 pm 
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Helicopter overflight of Anderson massif glaciers from QIN president Fawn Sharp:

https://www.facebook.com/1607975222/posts/10215002588890671/

https://vimeo.com/294978726
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PostMon Oct 15, 2018 1:44 pm 
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Interesting discussion there...

Ms. Sharp (pres of Quinault Business Council) claims "big oil" will pay this fee, not consumers!  The fee will start at 14 cents/gallon in 2020, and rise to 56 cents over 15 years.

The net operating margin for oil refineries was 1.92% in the last quarter, or 5 cents/gallon of the wholesale price.  If refiners absorb the carbon fee as Fawn claims, they'll be operating at a big and growing loss, with 3 possible outcomes: WA refineries would (1) export all refined products to market out-of-state or (2) shut down or (3) go bankrupt.

I do so wish for a CLEAN carbon tax that would pay for education, health, public safety and public transportation.  Not this "fee" to a new bureaucracy running programs of dubious merit which, based on BC's experience, will be ineffective.

(One of those programs is 5% set-aside to coastal tribes such as the Quinault and Quileute to pay for relocation out of tsunami zone, and who just received a $44 million Federal grant for that purpose.  Of course, I'm sure  rolleyes.gif this would has nothing to do with Ms. Sharp's campaign for I-1631.)

Quileute Tribal School
construction cost $44.1 million, cost/student $558,000
students 79, staff 36, teachers 22, student/teacher ratio 4

National average school construction cost/student $38,718
Washington state average student/teacher ratio 19


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PostSat Dec 29, 2018 10:09 am 
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How ironic that Ms. Sharp used a helicopter. Anderson Glacier has been gone for well over a decade. I could have sent her some before/after photos and saved a hundred or so gallons of aviation fuel. There's also Google Earth.

Glad 1631 failed. It was the worst form of misguided environmental policy I've yet seen.
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PostSat Dec 29, 2018 11:43 am 
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IF folks are serious about getting cooperation on reducing carbon, they'd better figure out a way to help the poorest people buy electric or fuel efficient cars instead of penalizing them through increased taxes.

Our politicians are too far removed from reality to figure that out.

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PostSat Dec 29, 2018 1:54 pm 
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True, all.  And our so-called "green" politicians are too often seeing a different kind of green nowadays.
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PostSat Dec 29, 2018 2:42 pm 
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Brian R wrote:
True, all.  And our so-called "green" politicians are too often seeing a different kind of green nowadays.

What kind of green are they seeing? That sounds like a Faux unsupported one-liner.
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