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Bernardo Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 2174 | TRs | Pics Location: out and about in the world |
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Bernardo
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:37 am
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Yesterday at Shenandoah National Park in Virginia:
From the AT in Shenandoah National Park Mary's Rock At Sunset in November from the AT in Shenandoah National Park View from the AT Sunset from the AT in Shenandoah NP Rock near AT The AT in Shenandoah NP AT marker November AT View from Shenandoah National Park Fall View from Appalachian Trail Sunset from AT in Shenandoah National Park Why they call them the Blue Ridge Mountains
Unfortunately, the day was marred by seeing two dead bears. The exceptionally huge crowds at the Park yesterday brought a constant stream of autos on roads that usually are not that busy. I saw two bears that had been killed by cars: a small cub in the park and large cub or small bear near the park. I reported recently on a sow and cub I had seen. The cub was less than a mile from that sighting and could have been the same animal. We've been talking about empathy lately. I wonder how much a mother bear suffers when she loses a cub like that? She and the cub would have been entering a den soon and spending the winter together. Now she's on her own after so much work and could one say love?
At a minimum, warning signs and a lower speed limit would be warranted when traffic is so high. I believe that animals that might wait to cross a road when traffic is sparse were overwhelmed by the volume of cars. Either that or the odds of an accident are simply much higher when the flow of cars is nearly continuous.
Heavy traffic has its costs.
Some photos taken on other trips this year:
Buck in Shenandoah National Park Virginia Box Turtle near Shenandoah National Park Farm in Valley near Shenandoah National Park Well Maintained Farm near Shenandoah National Park Typical Appalachian Mountain from Valley Floor Salamander or Newt? Edge of the Park Black Vulture above Shenandoah National Park Swooping Black Vulture in Shenandoah National Park A basalt outcropping in Shenandoah National Park Great Falls near Washington, DC
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Ski ><((((°>
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 11:40 am
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Poor bear!
What is the speed limit?
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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Bernardo Member
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Bernardo
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:13 pm
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It's a country style road known as U.S. highway 211. It's a two lane road that crosses through the park and the speed limit is 55 mph. On Skyline Drive which runs the length of the roughly north-south park the speed limit is 35. When I was on top of Mary's Rock after dark, I was shocked by the traffic jam I could see of folks waiting to exit Skyline Drive and get on 211. The other bear was just outside of Sperryville the first town outside the park. That road has divided lanes and is more like a highway so there would be less that could be done there.
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gb Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 6310 | TRs | Pics
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 12:20 pm
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Thanks, Bernardo, for bringing up this issue. Speed limits are likely to be a strong consideration. People need to not drive faster than their reaction time would allow given visibility. But many are ignorant about that.
I also agree on emotional trauma. Animals clearly have emotions. It is very easy to see emotions and roughly understand them in dogs for instance. Some PBS programs demonstrate that clearly as, for example, when animals see humans that were important to them after many years of absence, or demonstrable grieving on the part of a pride of elephants. And then there was the recent example of the Orca carrying her dead young calf for seventeen days.
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Ski ><((((°>
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Sun Nov 04, 2018 2:56 pm
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Bernardo wrote: | "...the speed limit is 55 mph..." |
That seems a little nutty for a road within a National Park, but then the speed limit on Hwy 101 through the Kalaloch strip (between South Beach and Ruby Beach) is 60mph.
Poor little bear. Just out there trying to be a bear doing what bears do, and gets clobbered by a car.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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olderthanIusedtobe Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 7709 | TRs | Pics Location: Shoreline |
Dang, sad to see a pair of road killed bears. I don't like seeing any type of road kill, I see raccoons and possums fairly often, deer sometimes.
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GaliWalker Have camera will use
Joined: 10 Dec 2007 Posts: 4930 | TRs | Pics Location: Pittsburgh |
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Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:49 am
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Looks like all the trees are bare. Shenandoah really comes into its own during peak fall foliage. Nice photos, still.
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natural_log Member
Joined: 19 Oct 2015 Posts: 49 | TRs | Pics Location: Portland, OR |
Yosemite is known for its "Speeding kills bears" and other wildlife messaging (you can even get a magnet from your friendly conservancy). But people just don't care; they treat driving on these roads like driving in town. My least favorite thing about visiting national parks is the tailgaters.
Shenandoah is notoriously crawling with bears, it surprises me that there would be high speeds posted, even on the state highway through the park.
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