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PostTue Jan 01, 2019 1:30 pm 
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http://blog.flickr.net/en/2018/11/01/changing-flickr-free-accounts-1000-photos/

Good news is we have cached* flickr images posted on NWH so there is no need to pay flickr a ransom in perpetuity to preserve display of your images here (we will display the cached version).  If you only use flickr to post images here it should be safe to delete them on flickr (to get under the 1000 photo limit to be able to post more).

*Flickr images posted prior to and still available as of Jan 2019 were cached.  Flickr images posted thereafter are automatically cached.  Due to space constraints we only cache the largest size available up to ~1600 pixels wide or tall.  If the image is a panorama or a very tall image (longer side more than 2x the shorter side) we cache the largest size available and resize as necessary to constrain the shorter side to 1024 pixels.  The lightbox will display the cache (with links to flickr to view larger sizes or video).  Flickr videos will not be cached so if you are debating what 1000 photos or videos to keep on flickr, videos would be the logical first choice.


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PostThu Nov 01, 2018 7:42 pm 
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I thought I had more pics on Flickr, but Ive got 1,287 on the site. Im not too worried about them disappearing, since I have them stored on my computer and an external hard drive.

I find the 1000 picture limit not that brilliant. Smugmug should grandfather in all pictures for those people who choose not to pay.

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PostSat Nov 03, 2018 1:03 am 
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yeah, this is a bit of a bummer. I have like 5k on there probably 90% linked to nwhikers trs, etc. I'll probably go in and nuke all the pics except pics of folks and maps.
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PostSat Nov 03, 2018 10:03 am 
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Don't nuke anything until we can download a backup.  I'm hoping to make it so that if a picture disappears it automatically displays the backup.  There are hundreds of thousands of flickr pictures posted here so it will take some time to download them all.
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PostWed Nov 07, 2018 10:47 am 
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boot up wrote:
But hey, some CEO wants to get another Lamborghini so what the heck,

you can always set up your own photo sharing/storage site and invite 8 billion people to use it for free. it would be the noble thing to do.

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PostMon Nov 19, 2018 2:10 am 
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I ignored the email about the changes for a while, read it the other day.  I see most folks here feel about the same as I do.  This seems like a huge F U from flickr to all their users, I'm fairly inclined to respond the same to them.  I haven't checked how many images I have but it's way over a thousand.  Sounds like paying to upgrade to pro status is a waste of money, so I'll probably just let them delete most of my pics.  Fun while it lasted I guess.
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PostMon Nov 19, 2018 8:43 am 
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I guess I haven't been paying close enough attention, because this is the first time I noticed this thread.
I spent the better part of the day yesterday deleting several thousand images from my "Flickr" accounts. (Yes, I have a few, because they used to limit the number of images you could have posted, so I just went around that with multiple accounts.)
After reading through this thread, and after deleting so many images because of this change, it will be a very cold day in hell before I ever trust "Flickr" or "Smugbug" or "Yahoo" again - they are in for a huge disappointment if they think they will ever see a dime of my money.
I was able to retain all the images for my piddly little number of trip reports here, but the non-hiking related stuff was significantly cut, meaning that an information source that has been used by hundreds of people (going by the view counts) over the last decade has been considerably reduced.
I really wish I could more candidly express my sentiments about this, but Tom doesn't allow that sort of language here.

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PostTue Nov 20, 2018 6:59 pm 
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I am just going to pay the $50. At least for 2019.

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PostWed Nov 21, 2018 11:41 am 
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Tom wrote:
I'll see what I can do to download a backup of all flickr images posted here.

That's what I've been doing. Slow process, but keeping at it. 1,000 images or $50/year? No thanks. Time to find another repository method.

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PostFri Dec 21, 2018 12:47 pm 
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Tom wrote:
Hopefully I can write a script to download all flickr images posted here to preserve TRs.  That should free you up to choose whatever host you want going forward.  Just don't delete any images.

How is this coming along Tom?

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PostFri Dec 21, 2018 12:53 pm 
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Taking longer than expected.  There are roughly a half million pictures to backup.  I hope to have them downloaded by mid January.  Please do not delete any flickr pictures until we have a backup.  Flickr won't start deleting them until February.
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PostFri Dec 21, 2018 4:28 pm 
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Thanks for the update!

eek.gif Half a million pics....

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PostSun Jan 06, 2019 10:06 pm 
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Tom, you are amazing.

I somehow only just heard about this Flickr debacle, and the only reason I have photos on there is for TRs here. I have well over 1000 photos, and no way am I paying $50 a year for the "privilege". I understand it costs money and all that to run a storage site, but still... I post on my website, that costs enough as it is.

So now I need to figure out how to add photos to TRs with another method.  waah.gif

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PostSun Jan 06, 2019 11:44 pm 
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Just keep using flickr to post.  I'm putting the finishing touches on it (lost a day due to power outage) but the plan is to back up any new flickr images as soon as they're posted here so you can just delete them if you need to free up space.  More details forthcoming but short story is nobody needs to pay flickr a dime of ransom.
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PostMon Jan 07, 2019 3:41 pm 
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Tom wrote:
More details forthcoming but short story is nobody needs to pay flickr a dime of ransom.

That is why I was thinking of using Google Photos after Tom gets done. Its probably not the most ideal place, but I was just looking at the settings for Google Photos and you can upload unlimited pics at the high quality setting for no charge. But if you did the original photo setting it would count against the 15 GB you get with your Google account, then youd have pay for more storage once the 15 is used up.

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