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PostWed Nov 14, 2018 1:43 pm 
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We don't judge wether to build airplanes based on the technology used in 1909. We don't judge bridges or buildings on technology or practices extant only in 1783. Why would you judge modern mining by the blatantly insupportable extraction techniques of the past?

All modern projects require bonding for cleanup, as well they should.

I'd prefer to think opposition to producing what we *all* use every day is based upon the easily correctable mistake of judging modern activity by flawed past practices, instead of hypocritical opposition to production of the basis of what someone is using right here,  to argue against it.

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PostFri Nov 16, 2018 4:59 am 
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2015 Gold King Mine Disaster regarding a gold mine mine closed in 1991 which destroyed the Animas river-shed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold_King_Mine_waste_water_spill

Do you really think that any bond would mitigate the damage from this spill? What is the cost of this spill?

What are the toxic metals that will cause risk in the Methow? Who will be responsible for preventing their release into the Methow decades or perhaps even a century after the mine is abandoned?
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PostFri Nov 16, 2018 5:09 am 
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Berkely Pit, Butte Montana? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Pit

Who pays for this? How do you find a company to hold responsible 35 years after mine closure? What will the cost be? Would a bond cover this? What is the cost and mitigation of drainage or worse into the Methow?
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PostSun Nov 18, 2018 6:28 pm 
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gb wrote:
2015 Gold King Mine Disaster regarding a gold mine mine closed in 1991 which destroyed the Animas river-shed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold_King_Mine_waste_water_spill

Do you really think that any bond would mitigate the damage from this spill? What is the cost of this spill?

What are the toxic metals that will cause risk in the Methow? Who will be responsible for preventing their release into the Methow decades or perhaps even a century after the mine is abandoned?

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The EPA has taken responsibility for the incident, but refused to pay for any damages claims filed after the accident on grounds of sovereign immunity

Not the best example, unless one is looking for examples of a regulatory agency's orders harming the environment, of course.

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PostMon Nov 19, 2018 4:26 am 
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MtnGoat wrote:
gb wrote:
2015 Gold King Mine Disaster regarding a gold mine mine closed in 1991 which destroyed the Animas river-shed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold_King_Mine_waste_water_spill

Do you really think that any bond would mitigate the damage from this spill? What is the cost of this spill?

What are the toxic metals that will cause risk in the Methow? Who will be responsible for preventing their release into the Methow decades or perhaps even a century after the mine is abandoned?

gb wrote:
The EPA has taken responsibility for the incident, but refused to pay for any damages claims filed after the accident on grounds of sovereign immunity

Not the best example, unless one is looking for examples of a regulatory agency's orders harming the environment, of course.

If you read the analysis of the accident, toxic water was building up as a consequence of past mining, and the accident happened as the EPA tried to mitigate the problem. The mining companies were long gone. Taxpayers pay the cost.
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PostFri Nov 23, 2018 12:31 pm 
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Current status: https://www.methowheadwaters.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Headwaters-BLM-Public-Meeting_Press-Release_111418.pdf
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