[Backpacker Joe]

That looks sweet. I need a rear rack for my backpack. LOL.

[rossb]

[Pyrites]

Full on two wheel drive. http://www.ubcobikes.com/us/product/2x2-2018/

[whitebark]

Of course, the ubco is not a bicycle, it is an electric dirt bike. We are just one battery breakthrough away from having extremely capable electric motorcycles. Land managers are soon going to have to face a difficult question: what type and power of electric bicycles to allow on mountain bike trails, since electric bikes will soon achieve the power (and trail-ripping destructiveness) of gas powered motorcycles.

[Pyrites]

I think their intent is that it’ll be able to be licensed as a motorcycle.

[treeswarper]

[Backpacker Joe]

Im looking into this Cube Stereo Hybrid. https://propelbikes.com/product/cube-stereo-hybrid-140-pro-500-27-5/

[Schroder]

And then there's the Johammer

[Tom]

[Backpacker Joe]

This is what the dealer emailed me. "From Cube I have the Stereo Hybrid Pro 140 that would offer one of the smoothest, efficient and powerful rides that we have! The stereo pro is a full suspension bike equipped with the Bosch Performance CX motor and the new hidden 500 watt-hour Bosch powertube battery! That gives you a hand-built in Germany frame, durable Shimano drivetrain and the best motor/battery combo on the market! This bike set up with the Thule pack-n-pedal rack system, you'd be all set for hiking adventure in no time with plenty of leg strength to enjoy your hike!"

[Tom]

Those bikes made for the EU market are castrated by EU e-bike regulations (maximum 250W motor). I wouldn't invest $4K+ on a handicapped eMTB.

[Backpacker Joe]

Thanks Tom. I dont really feel like building a bike. Isnt there a US manufacturer that sells a bike at the top of the technological list? I like that dang Ubco, but its not a bicycle? Couldnt a person get in trouble on that thing riding up the middle fork road???

[treeswarper]

This thread is showing the problem with having an eBIKE. Ebicycles are not motorcycles. There are 3 classes of ebikes, I think that has already been mentioned on here. Ebikes have limiters that do not allow them to exceed 20mph using the motor. Of course, like a regular bike, you can go over that by pedalling or coasting down a hill. People with a lot more technical skill than I are modifying their bikes so they can go faster, but legally, it is 20mph in WA. Most have pedals to use. The way I ride is not much different than on a regular bike except I do not have to get off and push it up hills. The problem lies in people imagining ebike users to be like dirtbike riders and imagining the worst. I laugh at this as I am off my bike pushing it through a muddy spot because I don't want to ride through it and risk getting mud on the electronics. There are people on this forum who equate any kind of bike with extreme danger for them on trails. Then there are mountain bikers who do not want ebikes on their trails because the ebikers have not "earned" getting up to some of the high spots. Sound familiar? Some road bikers are echoing that sentiment when riding on roads. My source for this infor is from a couple of ebike sites. Think of them as a normal bike, but with less pushing. Ebikes are in the beginning stage and I fear they will soon be over regulated because people who have never seen are fearing the worst. Posting pictures of motorcycles adds to the confusion.

[boot up]

[treeswarper]

Boot up, you seem to have a problem with fat people? I are one, by the way. I ride my e-bike for longer and more frequent trips than with my non ebike. Guess I should stay at home and watch videos instead. Oh, and fatness does not necessarily mean too out of shape. I was the roundest body at the bottom of the Grand Canyon--no raft trips at that time, and overtook quite a few skinny even younger folk on the hike back up. I suggest you work on your prejudice a bit. If you read a bit, those fat people on ebikes are actually losing a few pounds since getting their evil bikes. You even remark on their clothing? Boy, have you got some hang ups. Guess only slim, lycra clad people should even go outside, eh? Hope you are not around to offend this afternoon. I'll be bundling up in "regular" clothes and going for a bike ride. Shame on me!