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PostSat Mar 02, 2019 9:25 am 
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Cyclopath wrote:
If logic was all there is to it, nobody would ever hike.  Not even just because of lions tigers and bears, or because of the danger of being in a car on public roads, but also because we wouldn't have time given our second jobs.  The really smart people are the ones who realize that work and money are means to an end.  The heart wants what the heart wants, and sometimes that's mountains, sometimes it's inertia, sometimes it's putting them together.

Apples and Tomatoes. Comparing hiking to skiing down K2 is quite a stretch. When are the chances of being killed while hiking or driving to and from the TH, versus the odds of dying skiing down K2?

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PostSat Mar 02, 2019 1:05 pm 
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I ride my bicycle on roads with traffic-- one driver updating their Facebook status and veering onto the shoulder and I'm dead.
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PostSat Mar 02, 2019 3:43 pm 
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Chief Joseph wrote:
Apples and Tomatoes. Comparing hiking to skiing down K2 is quite a stretch. When are the chances of being killed while hiking or driving to and from the TH, versus the odds of dying skiing down K2?

Well if you hike in the Mountain Loop you'll get murdered for sure, but you missed my point.  We all have lots of sedentary coworkers who think hiking is just as crazy as you think skiing is.
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PostSat Mar 02, 2019 3:45 pm 
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I ride my bicycle on roads with traffic-- one driver updating their Facebook status and veering onto the shoulder and I'm dead.

Yep.  I spent a night in the ER and the next day in the ICU because a driver team a red light and knocked me off my bike.  We get desensitized to the danger of traffic, but that doesn't mean it's not there.  35,000 people die a year from traffic accidents in this country.

But it's harder to get emotional about that kind of danger.
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PostSat Mar 02, 2019 3:59 pm 
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Last July, after days of climbing, Andrzej Bargiel skied down K2, the world’s second-tallest mountain. K2 is so steep and dangerous that Dave Watson, the only American to attempt skiing K2, explains, “If you fall, you’re going to die.”

I've climbed with Dave.  He's originally from Southington, CT.  We both "grew up" climbing at Ragged Mountain in CT.
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PostSat Mar 02, 2019 4:18 pm 
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A quick Google search showed that 2 previous climbers died trying to ski down K2 and this guy made it. So the chances of dying are 66.66 %....Russian Roulette is 1 in 6 or 16.66%...so I guess attempting to ski down K2 is not crazy at all, only a 2/3's of those who try have perished. I think we will see that percentage go up as even more lunatics attempt to duplicate his feat. Like now a female will attempt it in order to be the first.

But who am I to criticize those who value "Trill Seeking" above their own lives and are obviously not afraid to die? More power to them. up.gif

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PostWed Mar 06, 2019 12:03 pm 
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The chances of dying are 100%, whether you ski K2 or not.
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PostWed Mar 06, 2019 10:57 pm 
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You know what's really dangerous though?  Being in the same room with R Kelley.
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