Forum Index > Trail Talk > Whats the deal with the enchantments date
Previous :: Next Topic  
Author Message
BigBrunyon
Member
Member


Joined: 19 Mar 2015
Posts: 578 | TRs
Location: the fitness gyms
BigBrunyon
  Top

Member
PostMon Mar 18, 2019 2:15 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
The website says they're announcin' March 15 but when you go to check it says they're announcin March 20!!  Whats the deal with this discrepency?

I'm thinkin its so they can be sure all their friend got em before they announce public winners!!

--------------
i ALWAYS camp at the upper lake!
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
thename
Member
Member


Joined: 26 Jul 2015
Posts: 26 | TRs

thename
  Top

Member
PostMon Mar 18, 2019 7:28 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Yep.

Quote:
The additional time is needed to validate that the quota has been allocated correctly and all processes are working as expected.
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
schifferj
Member
Member


Joined: 07 Mar 2015
Posts: 124 | TRs
Location: 509
schifferj
  Top

Member
PostTue Mar 19, 2019 11:54 am 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Quote:
The additional time is needed to validate that the quota has been allocated correctly and all processes are working as expected

That's exactly what the email I received from recreation.gov stated. In applying this year I noticed that the number of permits that will be issued for the Enchantments Core has changed significantly. In years past they awarded 5 or 6 permits depending on day of the week. This year they are allowing only 24 PERSONS per day in the core which would be half of what was allowed in the past if every winner chose to travel with a group of eight people.

My party of one would allow a couple more people to "win" the lottery should I win. I don't know how they will determine how many persons I would put on my permit should I win unless it were that maximum number of persons portion of the lottery app. I'm not holding out for success however and have alternative plans to return to the Eagle Cap, Sawtooth, and Absaroka-Beartooth Wilderness areas.
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
BigBrunyon
Member
Member


Joined: 19 Mar 2015
Posts: 578 | TRs
Location: the fitness gyms
BigBrunyon
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 7:17 am 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
I lost again!!! Its gonna have to be another HARD summer in the gym training for whenever the next big Core Approach is.

--------------
i ALWAYS camp at the upper lake!
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
thename
Member
Member


Joined: 26 Jul 2015
Posts: 26 | TRs

thename
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 8:20 am 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
The norm these days, of course. I was honestly surprised my peripheral zone entries didn't make the cut given the statistics from prior years.

Luckily we still have a plethora of alternatives.
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
idcrickmore
Member
Member


Joined: 20 Mar 2019
Posts: 1 | TRs

idcrickmore
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 2:15 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
My wife and I have now each entered the lottery every year since 2011. We generally choose mid week, close the shoulder season and avoid the Core Zone to improve our chances.

We have never won.

I don't understand how some people win year after year. It seems rigged, or that people are cheating some how. It's so frustrating and disappointing. At the very least people should not be eligible to win multiple years in a row when there is such high demand.
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Send e-mail Reply to topic Reply with quote
BigBrunyon
Member
Member


Joined: 19 Mar 2015
Posts: 578 | TRs
Location: the fitness gyms
BigBrunyon
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 2:24 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Especially when the social media "influencers" continue to win every year...

--------------
i ALWAYS camp at the upper lake!
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
olderthanIusedtobe
Member
Member


Joined: 05 Sep 2011
Posts: 6470 | TRs
Location: Shoreline
olderthanIusedtobe
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 3:16 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
One of my facebook friends just won for the second year in a row.  It seems to defy the statistical odds.  Good for him, but based on the demand it does seem like winning the lottery should eliminate you from consideration for some period of time in subsequent years.

I dated a woman who won 2 consecutive years.  That was around a decade ago though so I think the system has been revamped and demand has skyrocketed since then.
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Send e-mail Reply to topic Reply with quote
schifferj
Member
Member


Joined: 07 Mar 2015
Posts: 124 | TRs
Location: 509
schifferj
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 5:19 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
BigBrunyon wrote:
Especially when the social media "influencers" continue to win every year...

Just out of curiosity what is a a social media influencer and how could they “influence” what I assume is a computer choosing whose in and who’s out?
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
kbatku
Questionable hiker



Joined: 17 Sep 2007
Posts: 3262 | TRs
Location: Yaquima
kbatku
  Top

Questionable hiker
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 5:46 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Facility Name:
Enchantment Permit Lottery 2019

Recreation Area:
Enchantment Permit Area

Lottery Status:
Unsuccessful
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Send e-mail Reply to topic Reply with quote
BigBrunyon
Member
Member


Joined: 19 Mar 2015
Posts: 578 | TRs
Location: the fitness gyms
BigBrunyon
  Top

Member
PostWed Mar 20, 2019 7:50 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
schifferj wrote:
BigBrunyon wrote:
Especially when the social media "influencers" continue to win every year...

Just out of curiosity what is a a social media influencer and how could they “influence” what I assume is a computer choosing whose in and who’s out?

They're the ones with 20k+ followers on the 'gram, the new "who's who" of the outdoor community. Makin' that internet cash off the butt-in-yoga-pants pics!

--------------
i ALWAYS camp at the upper lake!
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
neek
Member
Member


Joined: 12 Sep 2011
Posts: 799 | TRs
Location: Seattle, WA
neek
  Top

Member
PostThu Mar 21, 2019 6:18 am 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Didn't even bother this year.

BigBrunyon wrote:
They're the ones with 20k+ followers on the 'gram, the new "who's who" of the outdoor community. Makin' that internet cash off the butt-in-yoga-pants pics!

I've got 9 followers on strava, and some of them aren't even family members.  Does that count?
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Send e-mail Reply to topic Reply with quote
schifferj
Member
Member


Joined: 07 Mar 2015
Posts: 124 | TRs
Location: 509
schifferj
  Top

Member
PostThu Mar 21, 2019 7:14 am 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
BigBrunyon wrote:
They're the ones with 20k+ followers on the 'gram, the new "who's who" of the outdoor community. Makin' that internet cash off the butt-in-yoga-pants pics!

I think I met one of those last year at an undisclosed location. So, how do they manipulate a computer to get them permits? Are they like Lori Loughlin who throws millions to cheat her daughter into USC?
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
thename
Member
Member


Joined: 26 Jul 2015
Posts: 26 | TRs

thename
  Top

Member
PostThu Mar 21, 2019 6:56 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Surely this was the reason for the delay: how do we have a random lottery that still weighs chances by Instagram followers?

Influencers or otherwise I'm enjoying all the "I got mine! SO EXCITED! May 17 I have a date with Lake Perfection! ... will I need an ice axe? #optoutside"
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Reply to topic Reply with quote
Brian R
Member
Member


Joined: 09 Feb 2018
Posts: 155 | TRs
Location: Fircrest WA
Brian R
  Top

Member
PostThu Mar 21, 2019 8:48 pm 
Reply to topic Reply with quote
Just day-trip it and then do an "emergency bivy" or two.
Back to top
View user's profile Search for posts by this user Send private message Send e-mail Reply to topic Reply with quote
  Display:     All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Forum Index > Trail Talk > Whats the deal with the enchantments date
  Happy Birthday elkendo, nuclear_eggset!
Jump to:   
Search this topic:

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum
   Use Disclaimer Powered by phpBB Privacy Policy