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PostThu Apr 25, 2019 8:59 pm 
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Now we know what the discover in Discover Pass means.  Legislature discovered another source of money for general fund.

https://view.s7.exacttarget.com/?qs=40e816dc8f79da7d8fd19257e94a558c93cc2ecec824c5bf7d561bbb5746cff1ee4852348838830623e33615e52c13692b5b254a9b011e46e9042ac6771d8ebfc85dca225e627632e9cb8a37caa69a26

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PostFri Apr 26, 2019 4:03 am 
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Why am I not surprised.

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PostFri Apr 26, 2019 6:42 am 
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The article states Department of Natural Resources not Washington State Parks and Recreation. CC’s post title is a little misleading.

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PostFri Apr 26, 2019 11:11 am 
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I would say "completely false", not misleading. The little snippet he linked to provides a couple of claims backed by nothing, and is about a "current proposal", not anything that has happened. Typical "panic over nothing" to draw major cynical conclusions from this tiny opinion piece.

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PostFri Apr 26, 2019 11:19 am 
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Just as I  thought, and it took two minutes to find the truth: state parks are asking for $19 million from the general fund, to cover for the fact that user fees only generate 80% of the state park budget.

https://parks.state.wa.us/177/Financing

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PostFri Apr 26, 2019 9:39 pm 
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Slugman wrote:
I would say "completely false", not misleading. The little snippet he linked to provides a couple of claims backed by nothing, and is about a "current proposal", not anything that has happened. Typical "panic over nothing" to draw major cynical conclusions from this tiny opinion piece.

Good to see that the old Slugman is back.  The mild-mannered version that was around for a while was kind of boring.

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PostMon Apr 29, 2019 5:08 pm 
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Well, The Mountaineers are still saying this in spite of what the State Parks web page says:

ACTION ALERT! DNR & STATE PARKS FUNDING UNDER THREAT
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PostMon Apr 29, 2019 10:22 pm 
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PostTue Apr 30, 2019 7:19 am 
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Schroder wrote:
Well, The Mountaineers are still saying this in spite of what the State Parks web page says:

ACTION ALERT! DNR & STATE PARKS FUNDING UNDER THREAT

And here is a reply I received from Senator Sam Hunt:

"As you mention, the Senate budget does include a one-time transfer of $1 million from the Park Land Trust Revolving Account to the General Fund.  I understand your concerns and the State Parks Commission has also expressed their concerns.  We are deep into budget negotiations with just a few days before the end of session.  I am hopeful that we will rectify this matter in the final budget."

So we'll see....

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PostTue Apr 30, 2019 11:57 am 
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We all know politicians. A one time transfer normalizes subsequent one time transfers.

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PostTue Apr 30, 2019 3:13 pm 
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MtnGoat wrote:
We all know politicians. A one time transfer normalizes subsequent one time transfers.

Yup. So write well, write often....

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PostWed May 01, 2019 1:55 pm 
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This really pisses me off. According to the WTA blog "DNR will see lower revenues because $750,000 from Discover Pass revenues was transferred to the state’s general fund." That's down from the initial $1 million but still sucks.

I wrote my representatives before the budget was finalized to protest. After mentioning that I'd been there with the WTA lobbying group I added:

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I understand that hard budget choices need to be made, but I have learned that the Senate budget diverts $1 million from DNR’s Discover Pass to the state’s general fund. This is very upsetting for me. The Discover Pass is on its own an unfortunate impediment for some people to visit public land and parks, but seemed acceptable as a user fee for those doing so. Now even that is being eroded and it is simply another tax, one that penalizes people enjoying our beautiful public lands. Please do not divert Discover Pass funds to the general fund.

Sen Jamie Peterson: "Thanks for your message and for your advocacy for funding of the budget requests of the Department of Natural Resources and the Parks and Recreation Commission.  As an Eagle scout and den leader in the cub scout pack where all four of my sons are members, I strongly agree about the importance of investments in our public lands.  I would support our moving to the House position on funding in these areas."

Rania Elbasiony for Rep Frank Chop: "Thank you for taking the time to reach out to Speaker Chopp. I will be sure to pass along your message."

I hoped it wouldn't come out this way

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And then they wonder why voters get angry.

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PostThu May 02, 2019 7:43 am 
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I'm trying to figure out what the heck is going on here.

If the operating budget for state parks is $166M and presumably state DNR is some number like that, what does it mean to transfer $1M?

Is someone trying to pick a fight?  Or as Mtn. Goat speculates, create a conduit that can be used later?  WTF?   huh.gif

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