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PostFri May 17, 2019 3:22 am 
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Please check the gun discussion and politics at the door.
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PostFri May 17, 2019 4:54 am 
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Bear spray works on a range of "wildlife".
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PostFri May 17, 2019 7:26 am 
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Vertec wrote:
I'll share this:

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30151096622&searchurl=tn%3Dcontact%2Bweapons%2Blethality%2Band%2Bdefense%26sortby%3D17&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title1

Good read.  Describes the stakes involved.

Vertec, I'm going to assume that this post was kind of a "not gonna share" thing, but I still have to ask - did it come down to that? Sorry if it did, it's sounding like a touch and go situation if that is the case.
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PostFri May 17, 2019 9:51 am 
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Tom wrote:
Please check the gun discussion and politics at the door.

Hey, all I said was this;

Often times the best thing you can do is be prepared to defend yourself when/if the time comes.

I never mentioned guns.

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PostSat May 18, 2019 12:05 pm 
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RandyHiker wrote:
Bear spray works on a range of "wildlife".

Were the victims carrying bear spray?

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PostSun May 19, 2019 7:05 am 
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Washinton Post profile of the deceased hiker.  RIP.  Bear spray definitely could have prevented the incident.

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PostSun May 19, 2019 1:15 pm 
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We have dedicated topics to discuss personal safety.  Threads such as this are not to be used a soapbox for personal preference or to debate effectiveness.
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PostSun May 19, 2019 2:10 pm 
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@ Malachi Constant: Are you referring to the murder of Rebecca Wight? That tragic incident involved a lesbian couple shot on the AT by a mentally ill male drifter on the AT. One woman (Rebecca) died at the scene from her wounds and the other hiked out to get help — despite being shot 5 times — and lived. The incident happened 31 years ago... .
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PostSun May 19, 2019 5:15 pm 
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there have been 8 or 9 murders on the AT since 1974 the one I was thinking of was in the 2000 and is unsolved. I am  aware of Rebecca’s murder also and it is one of the number I spoke of.

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PostTue May 21, 2019 6:42 pm 
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Yes, there’ve been a number of murders on the AT since then. I just wondered about the lesbian couple you said were killed there a few years ago. Can you provide their names?  I’d like to learn more about the case.
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PostTue May 21, 2019 7:08 pm 
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I remembered reading about this in Bill Bryson's book "A Walk in the Woods", so I leafed through and found their names on at bottom of page 153: Lollie Winans and Julianne Williams.

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PostWed May 22, 2019 12:14 pm 
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Doppelganger wrote:
Vertec wrote:
I'll share this:

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=30151096622&searchurl=tn%3Dcontact%2Bweapons%2Blethality%2Band%2Bdefense%26sortby%3D17&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title1

Good read.  Describes the stakes involved.

Vertec, I'm going to assume that this post was kind of a "not gonna share" thing, but I still have to ask - did it come down to that? Sorry if it did, it's sounding like a touch and go situation if that is the case.

Your post expresses genuine concern - Thanks.  Apologies for the delayed response.
I decided to follow up in the "personal safety" thread where this type of discussion belongs.

Regarding my encounter, I was eventually able to get a call to 911, and evade the situation.  My "education" began with that call, especially the discussion with the dispatcher who gave effective advice.  But if you ever find yourself speaking with a person who believes they might be advising an about-to be-dead person, it will make an impression on you.  It certainly made an impression on me.

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