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Eric Hansen Member
Joined: 23 Mar 2015 Posts: 866 | TRs | Pics Location: Wisconsin |
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awilsondc Member
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I can see why people would want to reach the highest point on Earth, but for me... no thanks.
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Pyrites Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2014 Posts: 1884 | TRs | Pics Location: South Sound |
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Fri May 24, 2019 2:13 am
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Again, even when younger, I was no climber.
That shot of standing in line is so different than reading about Hornbein’s Couloir in The West Ridge.
It may not be fair but it seems like the standard route is now about having money, a few months, physical fitness, and ability to handle exposure. It’s doesn’t seem like mountaineering to me.
Is this wrong, and one or two photos totally misrepresent the experience?
Best.
Keep Calm and Carry On?
Heck No.
Stay Excited and Get Outside!
Keep Calm and Carry On?
Heck No.
Stay Excited and Get Outside!
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Seventy2002 Member
Joined: 19 Jul 2008 Posts: 512 | TRs | Pics
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Pyrites wrote: | now about having money, a few months, physical fitness, and ability to handle exposure. |
And having the patience and bladder capacity to spend long hours waiting in line.
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Randito Snarky Member
Joined: 27 Jul 2008 Posts: 9513 | TRs | Pics Location: Bellevue at the moment. |
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Randito
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Fri May 24, 2019 7:48 am
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It is an effect of the greatly increased popularity of the climb, the demands of acclimatization, the narrow favorable weather window and improved weather forecasting.
Summitting Everest is only possible during the transitional period between wet and dry seasons. This often only lasts a few days to a week or so. Pretty much the rest of the year the summit is sticking into the jetstream with gale to hurricane force winds.
This season there was a longer than normal period of poor weather, so all parties were in position when the weather window opened. The forecast called for a number of good days, but no guide is going to tell their clients "Let's wait for tomorrow went it will be less crowded"
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SeanSullivan86 Member
Joined: 25 Jul 2009 Posts: 681 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
RandyHiker wrote: | Summitting Everest is only possible during the transitional period between wet and dry seasons. This often only lasts a few days to a week or so. Pretty much the rest of the year the summit is sticking into the jetstream with gale to hurricane force winds. |
I know this is generally true and why almost everyone climbs in May (and occasionally in the Fall), but I was curious how many exceptions there were. People are also generally aware that there has been a winter ascent of Everest (as opposed to K2).
In 1985 and 1986, Spanish(+Sherpa) and Swiss parties reached the summit in August, which seem to be the only July or August ascents.
The latest ever summit in the Spring season was on June 14th, 2007, by a UK party + Sherpa. Earliest was April 13, 1993 by a lone Sherpa.
Summits by month:
Code: | 2 2
4 21
5 4484
6 81
8 7
9 37
10 192
12 9 |
https://tiledevil.co.uk/blogs/mount-everest-climbers/list-of-mount-everest-climbers-1953-2000
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Schenk Off Leash Man
Joined: 16 Apr 2012 Posts: 2372 | TRs | Pics Location: Traveling, with the bear, to the other side of the Mountain |
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Fri May 24, 2019 8:52 am
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Rest In Peace climbers
I hope the famililes find closure.
Nature exists with a stark indifference to humans' situation.
Nature exists with a stark indifference to humans' situation.
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Randito Snarky Member
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Randito
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Fri May 24, 2019 9:02 am
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SeanSullivan86 wrote: | RandyHiker wrote: | Summitting Everest is only possible during the transitional period between wet and dry seasons. This often only lasts a few days to a week or so. Pretty much the rest of the year the summit is sticking into the jetstream with gale to hurricane force winds. |
I know this is generally true and why almost everyone climbs in May (and occasionally in the Fall), but I was curious how many exceptions there were. People are also generally aware that there has been a winter ascent of Everest (as opposed to K2).
In 1985 and 1986, Spanish(+Sherpa) and Swiss parties reached the summit in August, which seem to be the only July or August ascents.
The latest ever summit in the Spring season was on June 14th, 2007, by a UK party + Sherpa. Earliest was April 13, 1993 by a lone Sherpa.
Summits by month:
Code: | 2 2
4 21
5 4484
6 81
8 7
9 37
10 192
12 9 |
https://tiledevil.co.uk/blogs/mount-everest-climbers/list-of-mount-everest-climbers-1953-2000 |
Feel free to avoid the crowds by climbing during the monsoon.
October has 4% of summits -- which is also a transition period. April has 0.4% of successful summits. June 1.2%
Sure it's possible, but it requires very unusual conditions and climbers willing and able to endure even more horrific conditions. :/
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thunderhead Member
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That October window, while it does come with winds/precip/ambient temps in the same ballpark as May, also has less sunlight and comes just after snow/avalanche season up high, which I suspect leaves things less stable.
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wolffie Member
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Fri May 24, 2019 12:26 pm
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My god, that photo is a nightmare come true.
My entire life is a continuous process of watching the world get worser and worser. Soon, they will be up there with leaf blowers.
Lucky for me, I can still find solitude. I simply yodel and sing. Keeps away the bears. And the people.
Be nice to me, or else....
Some people have better things to do with their lives than walking the dog. Some don't.
Some people have better things to do with their lives than walking the dog. Some don't.
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olderthanIusedtobe Member
Joined: 05 Sep 2011 Posts: 7709 | TRs | Pics Location: Shoreline |
wolffie wrote: | Lucky for me, I can still find solitude. I simply yodel and sing. Keeps away the bears. And the people.
Be nice to me, or else.... |
I thought it was your killer attack corgi that kept people away.
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Downhill Member
Joined: 30 Jul 2018 Posts: 342 | TRs | Pics Location: Leavenworth |
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Fri May 24, 2019 3:33 pm
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Doppelganger wrote: | Wow, I still can't believe that picture isn't photoshopped. |
Exactly my first reaction to the photo! There are hundreds of mountains still on my wishlist, most of these I will never touch. Everest was never on my list, for other reasons and this just adds another. Ugh.
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Downhill wrote: | Doppelganger wrote: | Wow, I still can't believe that picture isn't photoshopped. |
Exactly my first reaction to the photo! There are hundreds of mountains still on my wishlist, most of these I will never touch. Everest was never on my list, for other reasons and this just adds another. Ugh. |
I dont believe that picture is real for a minute.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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JimmyBob Member
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Tom Admin
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