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flatsqwerl Member
Joined: 23 Feb 2010 Posts: 1049 | TRs | Pics Location: tacoma |
50 lbs when I was 16 and weighed 110 lbs.
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wildernessed viewbagger
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 9275 | TRs | Pics Location: Wenatchee |
60 lb in a Dana Designs External frame backpacking with my wife and two kids now my big three can be under 4 lb and in the summer 1-2 nights can be 10-12 lb total.
Living in the Anthropocene
Living in the Anthropocene
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Mountainfisherman Member
Joined: 26 May 2010 Posts: 123 | TRs | Pics
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Back in high school a buddy of mine and I backpacked from the Bear Gap Trailhead on Chinook Pass to Basin Lake, I think that's around 6-7 miles. He had been on pack trips with his grandpa's mules and packed all the kinds of stuff his grandpa packed on his mules, saws, axes, if it was made of metal into or onto his pack. It became pretty apparent that he wasn't going to make it up past Fog City, let alone reach the PCT and make it to Basin Lake, plus he insisted on taking the trail into Cement Basin which included a pretty stiff climb up to the top of the ridge to relive some glory days with his grandpa. So we switched packs. Weighed a hundred pounds easily. Spent two days and two nights at Basin Lake with fish jumping and bull elk in the lake on the ridges bugling and gathering their harems. I packed his pack out, but insisted on the PCT rather than climbing back out and through Cement Basin. Got back to the trailhead and had a flat so had to deal with that. One of the great trips of my life.
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NorthwestWanderer Member
Joined: 28 May 2016 Posts: 113 | TRs | Pics Location: Montana |
70lbs was my heaviest...never again. Gotta save my knees for later life haha
Now I average 40-45lbs and slowly acquiring lighter gear!
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:02 am
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RandyHiker wrote: | Roly Poly wrote: | getting sore spots from the pack rubbing. |
That sounds like your pack doesn't fit well, perhaps the wrong size? |
Doesn't fit well and/or isn't a good design for carrying loads. Both can be big issues with pack weight.
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:05 am
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Conditioning, of course, also matters a lot. Not just leg strength; also core and upper body too.
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coldrain108 Thundering Herd
Joined: 05 Aug 2010 Posts: 1858 | TRs | Pics Location: somewhere over the rainbow |
RandyHiker wrote: | Roly Poly wrote: | getting sore spots from the pack rubbing. |
That sounds like your pack doesn't fit well, perhaps the wrong size? |
The problem is that the places that "fit" backpacks are doing it in a cookie cutter way. The folks at REI are usually wrong, they will almost always undersize your pack leaving you with a pack that rides on your shoulders. But its not just them that do that, just about everyplace I look for pack sizing undersizes the pack and then you read comments about the pack not being able to carry over 25lbs or such what - no that is because the pack is the wrong size. I just hauled 28lbs in a pack that most people cry can't carry above 25 and it was awesome, no sore spots, no fatigue, I kept the weight off of my shoulders the entire time, didn't need to make constant
adjustments. I was surprised after the reviews I read, but then I saw how they "fit" the pack and understood now why it was an uncomfortable carry at certain weights.
Years ago my wife learned her lesson, she took the REI sales persons advice over mine, just a short bit into our trip she was complaining about the pack riding on her shoulders and since the torso length was too short there was nothing she could do about it. When we got back into town we exchanged it for the correct size and she was happy as can be after that.
Weird that they do the same thing with shoes - always push a smaller size - its almost as if they are trying to cause people to hate the sport.
BTW: My correct size is 2 fingers between shoulder and pack strap when fully weighted, the sole purpose of the shoulder straps is to keep the pack from flopping around, not to carry weight. This way if you want to drop the pack onto your shoulders you can, but only if you want to not because the torso is too short..
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 10:27 am
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Yes. This, though, for sure puts a premium on having a really comfortable hip belt. There are many packs sold today that cut corners there for the sake of a few ounces.
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seattlenativemike Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2012 Posts: 524 | TRs | Pics Location: seattle |
I'm 53 and I took 53 lbs in an Arcteryx Altra 65 up into the Enchantments a year ago. When I got back I sold that pack so I would never be tempted to carry that much crap
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gb Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2010 Posts: 6310 | TRs | Pics
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Mon Jul 15, 2019 5:29 pm
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In about 1984 Carl Skoog, I, and Doug V got the lucky break of guiding a trip up Glacier Peak. We met a group of youth who were doing the PCT. It was icy on mid-September snowfields and we ended up setting a fixed line to the summit and managed to summit 14 of 21 kids and youth leaders. Imagine our surprise (not a good surprise) when we found out that we three were carrying out all of the climbing equipment. My share besides my own backpack and climbing gear was 3 ropes, 7 sets of steel ice axes and crampons. I figured the pack was about 105 pounds (I think I weighed it) on the 8 mile hike out via Sitkum and Kennedy Hot Springs.
But hey, the pay was good. We each made $40/day, which works out to about 30 cents a pound. It could be worse. On a trek of Manaslu in 1998 we encountered a porter carrying 5-4x8 sheets of steel corrugated roofing as he walked sideways across a suspension bridge. I bet he was paid more like $2-$5 day.
I kid you not.
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Sky Hiker Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2007 Posts: 1469 | TRs | Pics Location: outside |
Went 20 miles into the brooks range on a 2 week trip to help pack sheep out with a friend and his buddy. Went in real heavy and came out a lot heavier after they both got their sheep. I know I was pushing 130+ and could only do 5 miles a day, stuff strapped and tied all over the outside of my pack. My knees a feet hurt for a month afterwards. Oh those younger days.
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DadFly Member
Joined: 02 Jul 2012 Posts: 402 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
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Tue Jul 16, 2019 1:18 pm
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One frozen elk hide weighed 74 lbs. 9 miles.
Climbing in the backcountry in the 70's pretty much added up to 80 lbs every time. Sometimes 15 miles.
Boyscout trips across the Bob in the 70's usually started at 50 lbs. Plastic from lumber yards was the lean-to material. Rubberized rain coat. External frame pack at 4-5 lbs. It adds up fast.
Now I try to keep it at 20-25 in summer.
30-35 winter.
Climbing gear is not in the picture much anymore.
"May you live in interesting times"
"May you live in interesting times"
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grannyhiker Member
Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 3519 | TRs | Pics Location: Gateway to the Columbia Gorge |
Since the above posters appear to be male, I thought I'd add a post from the female side.
My heaviest total pack weight was 57 lbs at the start of a 9 day group backpack on the Spider Meadow/Lyman Lakes/Image Lake/Buck Creek Pass loop, with a side trip to beautiful Canyon Lake. That was in 1987, when lightweight gear was difficult to find and, in any case, I didn't know any better.
I still don't know how I did it! While I greatly enjoyed the trip, it would have been much more enjoyable with my most recent total pack weight for 9 days of 27 lbs. Certainly my feet would have finished the trip in much better shape!
Such pack weights were not unusual back in the day; several of the participants in the trip (those I asked) carried very similar poundage, even when sharing tents and stove (which I wasn't). Of course some were carrying climbing gear, too.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.--E.Abbey
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.--E.Abbey
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melc Member
Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 78 | TRs | Pics
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Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:06 pm
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Once I backpacked to Surprise Lake with a group of friends. One person brought a 10 person tent! His pack was 90 lbs. He was really struggling so we took turns carrying the pack. One friend also had an infant so that made it even more interesting.
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Bernardo Member
Joined: 08 Feb 2010 Posts: 2174 | TRs | Pics Location: out and about in the world |
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Wed Jul 17, 2019 8:27 am
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Heart strength is a key factor in my view. You have to have a strong pump if you are going to bear a large load, good frame or not.
I recently went hiking with about 20 pounds and no hip belt. It felt good. A lot of light weight hikers ditch the belt. I'm not so sure it's natural to put a lot of weight on the hips. Shoulders don't seem to wear out as much as hips, although you hear a lot about bad backs. On a recent treck, I carried between 24.75 and 21 and did use a hip belt, but I think going beltless has some appeal.
Heaviest I ever carried? Wish I knew. I have carried other folks packs as well as my own for relatively short distances. Brought a lot of gear to climb Mount Olympus - I was staggering in the parking lot when I got the pack on but we made it.
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