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PostThu Aug 08, 2019 8:13 pm 
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Tom wrote:
Here's the top 50 in posts.† Looks like I cracked the top 25.†

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PostMon Aug 12, 2019 8:57 am 
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any theories then on why the nearly 10 million people polled by the UN ranked 'action on climate change' 16th out of 16?

Immediate concerns will always receive more attention. Are you suggesting that any long term concerns or goals are thus somehow less important if there is nothing happening to you right now?
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PostMon Aug 12, 2019 9:05 am 
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Nope. I suggest non issues have little importance in the first place.

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PostMon Aug 12, 2019 10:00 am 
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Parked Out wrote:
any theories then on why the nearly 10 million people polled by the UN ranked 'action on climate change' 16th out of 16?

Immediate concerns will always receive more attention. Are you suggesting that any long term concerns or goals are thus somehow less important if there is nothing happening to you right now?

That's kind of the point, that for much of the world (especially low HDI nations) things are happening to people right now, in the sense of deficits that hamper their material well-being. Many people aren't safe from today's climate, so how much can you really afford to worry about tomorrow's climate?  Maybe making yourself resilient to today's challenges is the best thing you can do to prepare for tomorrow.

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The reality of wind power. Coming to states near you soon, dependent upon how radical their bird chopping subsidy is,  how long it's been in place, and their access to real power backup. The best you can hope for is merely higher rates for electrons just like prior ones.

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National Grid had evidence that the shift to renewable energy was putting Britain's electricity supply at risk months before the biggest blackout in a decade, The Mail on Sunday can reveal.

The company, which is responsible for keeping the lights on, has downplayed the role of wind energy in the power cut that caused widespread chaos earlier this month.

John Pettigrew, chief executive of the FTSE 100 firm, described the outage as a 'once-in-30-years' event and said there was 'nothing to indicate there is anything to do with the fact that we are moving to more wind or more solar'.

Yet in April, National Grid published research warning that using more renewable power sources posed a threat to the network's 'stability'.

In a report based on a £6.8 million research project, National Grid admitted that renewables increased the 'unpredictability and volatility' of the power supply which 'could lead to faults on the electricity network'.

The revelations come as energy regulator Ofgem and the Government continue to investigate the causes of the blackout.

This movie is already playing in Australia, which acts as the worlds crash test dummy for boutique power installation. But at least unreliable power costs more.

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Australiaís energy regulator has launched court action against four windfarm operators, alleging they failed to meet performance requirements during 2016ís statewide South Australian blackout.

About 850,000 homes lost power on 28 September that year, when severe weather conditions led to significant damage to SA transmission lines, causing voltage disturbances. The event heightened a fractious national debate about energy policy.

The Australian Energy Regulator has said a loss of wind generation after the voltage disturbances contributed to the the blackout.

It alleges subsidiaries of the four companies Ė AGL Energy, Neoen SA, Pacific Hydro and Tilt Renewables Ė failed to ensure their windfarms complied with a generator performance standard requirement and had automatic protection systems to ensure continuity of supply.


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PostThu Aug 22, 2019 7:56 am 
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Bernie is all in for the GND and the deconstruction of prosperity, but at least the sticker price is only 16 trillion, plus of course the inevitable doubling, tripling, or more.

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/politics/bernie-sanders-unveils-163-trillion-plan-to-avert-a-climate-catastrophe/2019/08/22/f0b7e572-c4cc-11e9-b72f-b31dfaa77212_story.html

Save us from those who would save us.

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PostThu Aug 22, 2019 1:28 pm 
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that's probably just a fraction of what we have and continue to give Big Oil to destroy our air, land, and water.
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PostThu Aug 22, 2019 11:28 pm 
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It's been a while since I've peeked in here to see what's going on.  Lots of fun stuff to investigate and be entertained with - interesting stats breakdown by Tom after the 10K post, a really interesting film to anticipate by Michael Moore protege Jeff Gibbs, and most of all - thanks to ParkedOut for the link to "The Political Compass".  up.gif  I hate forced choice, but have to admit that my quiz results seem pretty accurate. Their essay re the 2016 election was spot-on.

The next time we get a good snow dump and I'm housebound, maybe I'll skim thru the whole 10K.  Too bad Tom doesn't have an AI "debate analyzer".  biggrin.gif

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PostFri Aug 23, 2019 6:18 am 
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MtnGoat wrote:
the deconstruction of prosperity

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Save us from those who would save us

Oh MG, stubborn to the end, living up to your username! wink.gif Next year will be interesting for sure.

Considering the rampant deregulation of the Amazon today (sound familiar, kind of like what is happening here!), the GND's climate goals would have the potential to mitigate this. These programs sound reasonable to me - certainly better than what Bolsanaro is perpetuating now, would you agree? Do you disagree with the proposal that we rejoin the Paris Agreement?

https://www.greenclimate.fund/projects/fp100
https://www.greenclimate.fund/projects/fp065

Let's also consider the roles of people such as Bolsanaro, Macri, or Maduro. How did they come to power? Where do their priorities lie, and who/what motivates those priorities? International pressure on the leadership of these countries is the best solution (perhaps the only viable solution given the time restriction) to climate change.
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PostFri Aug 23, 2019 9:10 am 
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So strange that it is government policy to destroy the environment.

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PostFri Aug 23, 2019 2:03 pm 
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Any updates of note recently? Last checked in around page 640 or so.

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PostFri Aug 23, 2019 2:26 pm 
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Not much since page 1.  Still a myth (weighted by post count).
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PostSat Aug 24, 2019 7:54 pm 
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Parked Out wrote:
Full disclosure:  I've been consistently left-of-center politically for many years according to these little online tests like My Political Compass.  But I can't relate much at all to the Left of today.

My political compass 1-4-2019
My political compass 1-4-2019

https://www.politicalcompass.org/


If you look at scores of Democratic presidential hopefuls on this site, almost all of whom fall in upper right quadrant, your score almost overlaps with those of Bernie and Tulsi Gabbard, who by US standards are "off-the-wall left."   You can't relate to them?

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PostMon Sep 02, 2019 11:19 am 
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On a related topic, FWIW,  I made this post in the Saloon  discussing how a number of Cliff Mass's blog readers recently took exception to his dispute with the national reports on local drought conditions.  It's more than rainfall and stream levels. A critical metric is " the evaporative demand drought index".

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PostTue Sep 03, 2019 6:56 am 
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The intuitive sense of drought for most people is whether it has rained a lot. This doesn't take other factors into account very well. For example in 2015 it rained a normal amount but there was a drought because it rained instead of snowed, so there was almost no runoff. So the doubters cried foul that there was a drought in a year of about average rainfall.
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