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PostFri Nov 08, 2019 5:02 pm 
The best place to keep a PLB (or SEND) depends how the accident happens. You might break your hands or get hyperthermia/frostbike and be able to push a button, but not to open a zipper. You could fall answering the call of nature at a lunch stop after you've taken your pack off, in which case having it on your belt would be ideal. There isn't one right way to carry it.

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PostFri Nov 08, 2019 5:17 pm 
That is why avalanche beacons come with a harness to ensure they do not detach in a fall or slide. It is probably overkill to use one on a locator beacon as most of the time no long fall is involved and if it is the victim is probably in no shape to operate the device.

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PostFri Nov 08, 2019 10:15 pm 
Article in the wenworld today. Ryan Cairnes walks around the fourth floor of Central Washington Hospital on Friday, recovering from a 400-foot tumble down part of Cannon Mountain near Leavenworth on Sunday. He was rescued Tuesday after making his way to the Stuart Lake Trail with broken bones in his neck, knee, scapula and ribs. LEAVENWORTH — On Tuesday, Ryan Cairnes snapped a picture of the dirt, removed the camera’s memory card and then put it in his pocket. It was a throwaway, but at least now the authorities would have an idea of when he was last alive should he die. It’d been a day and a half since he tumbled 300 feet down an icy slope on Cannon Mountain in the Alpine Lakes Wilderness. His neck, right patella and sternum were fractured. His ribs were battered, his arms bruised and his legs bloodied. Because no one knew where he was, it might be days before anyone noticed he was missing. “I could just lay there and look at the stars and I knew that was probably the last thing I was ever going to do,” Cairnes said Thursday on the fourth floor of Central Washington Hospital. “And I knew that I couldn’t do that. I knew I had to take the hard way out.” Cairnes, a 36-year-old senior program manager with Microsoft in the Seattle area, dove into mountaineering a year and a half ago and has since summited more than 30 of the state’s 100 tallest mountains. He entered The Enchantments on Saturday morning. The plan was to bag as many peaks as he could over the next two days: up Aasgard Pass to Dragontail Peak and then on to Little Annapurna, sleep overnight and then summit McClellan Peak, Enchantment High Peak and finally Cannon Mountain on Sunday. In his pack were 45 pounds of gear, including coats, an all-weather tent, waterproof bag, sleeping bag, avalanche shovel, crampons and an ice axe. If all went well he’d be home in Seattle Sunday night. Sunday He reached the top of 8,638-foot Cannon Mountain about 4 p.m. and then sent his mother in Pennsylvania a text message, saying he was wiped out, but in good spirits. Normally, he’d call but his phone battery was dying and daylight was fading. Cairnes made his descent down the west aspect of the mountain, following a GPS route from a previous climber. He later learned this was not the recommended route. He was making good time, descending 2,000 feet in roughly an hour, but as the evening grew dark he encountered a long boulder field with a staircase of small cliffs. The first was about 15 feet high. Nothing crazy. “I didn’t have any worries about downclimbing it,” Cairnes said. “At that point, I was a little exhausted though, to the point where I probably wasn’t making super clear judgements, I just wanted to get out.” He wasn’t expecting ice this low in elevation. He’d crossed snowfields earlier in his trip, but that was in the 7,000-foot level. Not his current elevation of 5,400 feet. “So I grabbed onto my first handhold and when I tried to get the second handhold it just kind of, something didn’t work,” Cairnes said. “Next thing you know, I was sliding.” Now he was flying over ice and 15-foot ledges. Slide. Fall. Slide. Fall. Slide. Fall. “I said to myself right then and there, I’m like ‘You’re gonna die right now. I said there’s no way you’re not gonna die,’” Cairnes said. “I guess the only question I had in my mind was like ‘I wonder what it’s gonna be like?’ you know, to die. “And my other thing was like, ‘I don’t want to ... die.’” His next thought, as he continued to slide, was of disappointment. “I knew that I was going down a cliff face and I knew I was gonna die,” Cairnes said. “And I just said to myself, ‘Man, this is one royal (screw-up). I can’t believe you did this. Out of everything you’ve done, I can’t believe you did this.’” He shot off a cliff and crashed into a boulder. He felt his body crunch. “I felt this excruciating pain and I couldn’t breathe,” Cairnes said. “I just wanted to breathe so bad and I couldn’t breathe. But I knew I was alive.” A minute passed before he could suck his first breath. He tried to stand but his body collapsed. He could hardly hold his head up and his arms felt like they were on fire, but his pack and now badly dented helmet protected his spine and head. He saw a light flashing in the distance. Someone must’ve seen him, he thought. He’d been climbing with a headlamp but lost it in the fall. He signaled SOS with an emergency light. “I guess in my mind I figured, OK the choppers are going to come in,” Cairnes said. “They saw this dude flashing SOS so now they’re going to come in.” He stayed put, not that he had much of a choice, and slept against a boulder. Monday The next morning he awoke to football-sized rocks crashing down the mountain within a foot of his head. This wasn’t a safe place to stay. He had to move. “I was looking at my body like, 'Let’s do this' — and I couldn’t physically move. It was like I was paralyzed,” Cairnes said. “I said, ‘Ryan, this will kill you.’” He grabbed a few essentials — waterproof jacket, stuff sack, sleeping bag and small jacket — and crawled 100 feet to relative safety. That took over an hour. He sat listened for helicopters. “I was kind of losing hope, I got super thirsty,” Cairnes said. “And I knew there’s basically three things you die from: exposure, lack of water and lack of food.” He moved to a stream 200 feet away. The crawl took hours. He bivouacked by the stream, wedging his feet into rocks to keep from sliding, even though it hurt. As the sun set, he calculated the chances of a rescue. Other than his mom, no one knew he was on Cannon Mountain. The odds were low. Tomorrow, he’d make his move. “I just made it up in my head that no matter what I was going to get out,” Cairnes said. If the hubcaps fly off as you cross the finish line, so be it, he thought. “So I said, ‘You know, what’s the worst thing that can happen to your body? Like if it’s going to break, you might as well just break it,” Cairnes said. “It’s just pain. It’s going to suck.” “I just made it up in my head that no matter what I was going to get out,” Cairnes said. Tuesday He woke up with the sun again Tuesday. His torso trashed from the fall, it took 15 minutes to sit up. “I walked over to the stream on two feet and I just said ‘My two feet are going to work today’ and filled up the water bag and chugged as much water as I could,” Cairnes said. He clipped a water bottle to his body and then dragged a few items behind him in his sleeping bag. He left his SLR camera behind, but not before taking a photo of the dirt as a timestamp. Cairnes used an 8-foot branch as a walking stick, leaned heavily on his left leg and started walking. About a thousand feet down, he heard helicopters. “I start hearing the birds in the air and they were over Cannon so I knew immediately my mom called them in,” Cairnes said. One popped over the ridge. He laid out his sleeping bag and signaled SOS with his emergency light. “I’m ready to cry. Here it is finally,” Cairnes said. “And then the bird went right back over the ridge, didn’t see me. It was heart wrenching.” Cairnes kept moving, but he continued to see the helicopters swoop through The Enchantments. They were looking in the wrong place. By the end of the afternoon, he’d reached a boulder field. He laid in a T on a boulder, hoping he’d be seen by a pilot. He wasn’t. The helicopters headed out for good around 4 p.m. He was faced with another decision: stay here and hope they see him or head into the forest and gun for the trail? By staying in place, he’d be visible, but would he be able to move again? The longer he stayed still the tighter his body became. But he certainly wouldn’t be visible in the trees. He went for it, moving as fast as he could along a deer trail. “At that point I wasn’t even thinking about my legs, my legs were just firing with all cylinders and I was just going,” Cairnes said. Around 6 p.m. he reached the Stuart Lake Trail where four people were leaving toward the Stuart Lake Trailhead. “And I just started yelling, ‘Help! Help! Help! Please help me!’” They didn’t say anything. “I thought, ‘Well that’s kind of messed up,’” Cairnes said. But as they got closer, they asked, “Are you Ryan?” “I’m Ryan,” he replied. “We’re looking for you,” they said. His mom had called the Chelan County Sheriff’s Office and reported him overdue at 2 p.m. Monday. The four were two members of the Chelan County Mountain Rescue Association and two traveling nurses who’d been out hiking and then joined the search. One of their first questions: “Can you walk out?” “I said to them, ‘To be honest, I’m (messed) up,” Cairnes said. Cairnes was wheeled out in a stretcher and then transported to Central Washington Hospital. His neck is in a brace and it pains him to stand, but somehow nothing is broken. He says he hopes to be out of the hospital later that day, recovering from broken bones in his neck, knee, scapula, and ribs. Recovery On Friday, Dan Fleming, a friend from a wilderness first-aid class over a year ago, went to Cannon Mountain to retrieve the gear Cairnes left behind. He found it all. He’s not surprised Cairnes survived. “He doesn’t get spooked, he doesn’t get razzled,” Fleming said Thursday at the hospital. “It’s just, this is what we’ve been trained to do and this is what I’m going to do.” Recounting his dance with mortality from a lounge at the hospital, Cairnes feels lucky to be alive. “It was eye-opening,” Cairnes said. “I shouldn’t be here.” There are a few things he’d do differently: pack an emergency beacon, let others know his route and do more route research. But after two days with a broken body in below freezing temperatures and almost entirely self-rescued, there are a few things he thinks he did right: know how hurt you are, know where you are and know if anyone’s coming for you, he said. “Attack the things that will kill you first,” Cairnes said. Cairnes plans to return to hiking and mountaineering after he heals.

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PostFri Nov 08, 2019 11:59 pm 
That's a hell of a story. Good on him, way to persevere and make good self rescue decisions.
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His neck is in a brace and it pains him to stand, but somehow nothing is broken. He says he hopes to be out of the hospital later that day, recovering from broken bones in his neck, knee, scapula, and ribs.
confused.gif Hopefully he will heal up soon.

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PostSat Nov 09, 2019 8:12 am 
Cyclopath wrote:
The best place to keep a PLB (or SEND) depends how the accident happens. You might break your hands or get hyperthermia/frostbike and be able to push a button, but not to open a zipper. You could fall answering the call of nature at a lunch stop after you've taken your pack off, in which case having it on your belt would be ideal. There isn't one right way to carry it.
My son wears some kind of an Apple watch that's blued to his phone. This thing "phones home" (to wherever?) if it thinks he's taken a fall, and if he doesn't tell it otherwise within a few seconds (or minutes, I don't know). Potentially handy for where he goes (not in the alpine, or even outside cell coverage areas typically). Do any of the PLB like gadgets do this, do any of you know?

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PostSat Nov 09, 2019 8:43 am 
That is one heck of a survival story. Good on him for being prepared for the cold temperatures and every other decision he made.

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PostSat Nov 09, 2019 9:52 am 
That article reads like Touching the Void!

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PostSat Nov 09, 2019 9:55 am 
moonspots wrote:
My son wears some kind of an Apple watch that's blued to his phone. This thing "phones home" (to wherever?) if it thinks he's taken a fall, and if he doesn't tell it otherwise within a few seconds (or minutes, I don't know). Potentially handy for where he goes (not in the alpine, or even outside cell coverage areas typically). Do any of the PLB like gadgets do this, do any of you know?
I know that Garmin watches and bike computers have that same feature, but I don't know of any satellite based rescue devices that do. My guess is that it's probably too easy to trigger a false positive to put into a system where the cavalry will come for you if it goes off. I mean if it was in your pack and you didn't realize you'd triggered it by jumping a few feet off a boulder... I know that marine PLBs will automatically go off if they're submerged.

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PostSat Nov 09, 2019 2:21 pm 
RumiDude wrote:
It is not unlikely it could be torn off and lost.
That was my thinking.. not if it would remain attached and still function

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