[moonspots]

[Backpacker Joe]

[Ski]

No, you are most certainly NOT the only one, BPJ. I go into the downtown Seattle area ONLY if I have tickets to a performance at one of the many venues in the downtown area. Otherwise, I avoid Seattle if at all possible. I used to live 30 miles south of where I am now, and drove up to Pike Place Market every week because they had fabulous vegetables and fruits and I could drive right into the market and park there. That was.... 1980-something.... But if people think they're going to avoid high taxes and ridiculous real estate prices, I very seriously doubt that Seattle (or the immediate surrounding area) is going to be their first choice for a place to move.

[Tom]

I'm not scared at all to drive into Seattle. Other than traffic.

[Ski]

"Scared" has nothing to do with it in my case, Tom. It's availability of parking and traffic that drove me out of Seattle. Life's too short to put up with that nonsense all the time.

[Tom]

I just drove to Seattle last week. I found parking but did have to pull out my wallet. Risked life and limb but survived despite the lack of law enforcement and homeless people. I've seen worse traffic on 405. I blame Seattle for that too. The Calendar Social is technically in Seattle too. Oh noes! You have been warned.

[Cyclopath]

I drove into Seattle this evening and found free street parking right across the street from where I was going.

[Cyclopath]

[neek]

Unlike this thread's title, the article never mentions the word "plan". If contemplating were the same as planning, I'd probably be in jail right now. That said, CA was #3 in exodus rate in 2016, behind NY and IL. Also, I'm glad to no longer work in downtown Seattle, but most of the neighborhoods are fairly nice to walk around in. Mostly what makes downtown unpleasant to me is cars (and their exhaust, noise, and menace) covering every square inch of pavement.

[Backpacker Joe]

It has nothing to do with fear. I avoid Seattle out of disgust! Im disgusted at the environment they've created! Im certainly not going to contribute to it by paying anything to anything that relates to or is dependent on the environment they have created. Again, if you think Im the only one................

[Pyrites]

There are still more people moving into California than leaving.

[Tom]

BPJ, I guess we won't see you at the social then.

[Bernardo]

A quick internet search indicated that CA's population grew by .4% in 2018, the lowest rate in it's history. 90% of this growth came from net births verus deaths and the remaining .04% (21,000 people) came from net immigration which includes legal an illegal entry domestic and international. Given the large number of illegals reaching the country, the net migration of citizens must be negative. In any case, the state is growing slower than the nation as a whole and is likely to lose at least one seat in the next apportionment of Congressional seats.

[Riverside Laker]

I was curious about the Cle Elum population explosion in 2000-2010: 6.75% in that decade alone! However, the city peaked about the year 1914, many more people than it is today. Perhaps many of them moved to California. It would have been terrible to live in Cle Elum from 1870-80, when the population went up 13,000% (4 to 543).

[treeswarper]