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PostFri Dec 13, 2019 11:55 am 
Automobiles are not allowed in any designated wilderness areas of National Parks. The relationship between the automobile (or the railroad) and the National Parks notwithstanding, I fail to see how that is relevant to a discussion concerning ebikes in National Parks (or other federally or state administered public lands.) The book is easily available online.

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PostFri Dec 13, 2019 12:10 pm 
If ebikes are, as some here contend, motorized conveyances that threaten the wilderness concept, then it is relevant. In any event, it was simply a suggestion for Randy--who seems to lack an understanding of wilderness theory and history. If you're not interested, then don't read it.

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PostFri Dec 13, 2019 9:03 pm 
Brian R wrote:
If ebikes are, as some here contend, motorized conveyances that threaten the wilderness concept, then it is relevant. In any event, it was simply a suggestion for Randy--who seems to lack an understanding of wilderness theory and history. If you're not interested, then don't read it.
The topic is about eBikes being permitted alongside pedal powered bicycles on trails within national parks that already allow pedal powered bicycles. Those trails already navigate lands that are managed as non-wilderness lands. Within Mt Rainier National park the two routes affected at the West Side road and the Carbon River Road, both of which were open to motor vehicle traffic prior to large flood events that damaged the roads and closed them to motor vehicle usage. The Mt Rainier wilderness boundaries are entertaining, my favorite "anomaly" is the hole around Camp Muir, which isn't wilderness, but is fully surrounded by wilderness. The NPS uses this hole so they can service Camp Muir using helicopter flights , mainly to remove barrels of human waste. The hole also allows for hundreds of tents. But a few hundred yards below Camp Muir it is technically wilderness, even though on good weather days in the summer there are typically a few hundred people traveling the route, a number of them sharing their favorite music via largish blue tooth speakers attached to their pack.

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PostSat Dec 14, 2019 3:52 pm 
Brian R wrote:
In any event, it was simply a suggestion for Randy--who seems to lack an understanding of wilderness theory and history. If you're not interested, then don't read it.
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