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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 10:54 am 
Mayor of Astoria “Appalled” by “Irresponsible Vacationers” Hitting the Oregon Coast During a Pandemic
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He issued a statement tonight decrying "irresponsible vacationers" and calling on Oregon Gov. Kate Brown to close state parks. Jones pledged to convene an emergency meeting of the Astoria City Council to close campgrounds and short-term rentals in his city. Many people ignored Brown's plea to stay home this weekend—an instruction still not backed by any force of law—and went to the beach in the midst of a COVID-19 outbreak that has killed four Oregon residents and threatens thousands more. The governor was said to be "frustrated" by the blasé response to her entreaties.
People Pack the Oregon Coast Despite Warnings to Stay Home
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Just chatted with the mayor of Warrenton on the coast. He wants tourist to go home until this pandemic is over. He says they don’t have the medical resources of a big city to help if the virus shows up here. Says it is concerning to see a long line of traffic headed to the coast.
My fave, which I noted yesterday in Trail Talk
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Anxious Oregonians Head for the Woods, Creating a Traffic Jam in the Columbia River Gorge “Parking lots and roadside parking overflowed this week, with cars parking in ditches and blocking intersections.”
I get it, being outdoors is one of the few places to stretch your legs for reals, but is 'social distancing' really effective if the trail is packed with people?

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 12:16 pm 
Virus rebels from France to Florida flout lockdown practices
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Young German adults hold “corona parties” and cough toward older people. A Spanish man leashes a goat to go for a walk to skirt confinement orders. From France to Florida to Australia, kitesurfers, college students and others crowd the beaches.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 1:17 pm 
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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 1:49 pm 
Yep, a certain % of us can't do the right thing; seems we need/deserve a China-style (or at least Italian better-late-than-never) lockdown. From a reader of the WaPost:
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... all the small towns on the coast were flooded with traffic and visitors coming over from the metro areas in the valley (Portland, Eugene, Salem, Southern Washington). It looked like a holiday weekend. People strolling along eating ice cream. Shops and restaurants were open. Our small town mayors were begging people to stay home as our rural medical systems are extremely vulnerable. Here in Tillamook county...we have 25 ICU beds for 25,000 people. No testing of course.
Coast town Warrenton orders visitors to leave, Astoria may follow.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 2:02 pm 
There's not much need in locking down the entire state, the urban areas alone would do. No one outside them is heading into the hot zones if they can help it.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 2:54 pm 
MtnGoat wrote:
There's not much need in locking down the entire state, the urban areas alone would do. No one outside them is heading into the hot zones if they can help it.
This might be workable if we had something close to near-universal testing for everyone. Except for perhaps 3rd world countries, the USA is the most unprepared place for having a handle on where this is spreading. If we could test everyone, regional lock downs might work, although some of the most hard hit areas that have them are having difficulty enforcing them. The guv of NY is tearing his hair out:
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Cuomo gave New York City officials 24 hours to come up with a plan to deal with residents still congregating in parks and other places and not practicing social distancing. He noted 53% of the cases in New York are between the ages of 18 and 49 and 40% to 80% of state residents may contract coronavirus. “It’s insensitive, arrogant, self-destructive ... and it has to stop, and it has to stop now,” he said. “This is not a joke and I’m not kidding.
Source: https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-usa/ohio-louisiana-become-latest-u-s-states-to-declare-coronavirus-lockdowns-idUKKBN2190NQ

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 6:41 pm 
Are these governor's now dictators? Where did freedom go?

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 7:26 pm 
We'll see how things change here in the coming days. The National Guard has just been activated in Washington, California, and New York.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 7:27 pm 
Bernardo wrote:
Are these governor's now dictators? Where did freedom go?
Seriously? huh.gif

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 7:27 pm 
Bernardo wrote:
Are these governor's now dictators? Where did freedom go?
Oh give me a break. Anyway yeah think I'm done with hiking for now, trails anyway; gonna stick with the bike, although wouldn't be surprised to hear further restrictions this week that put a damper even on that. Brief experience on the Burke today was downright terrifying.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 7:34 pm 
I do not fear our National Guard. They had a road block by Morton when hwy 12 to the east was closed due to landslide danger. They were allowing residents to come and go. I went to Morton to get some groceries. All you had to say at the checkpoint was that you lived in Randle. No ID was asked for--nothing. Easy peezy.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 7:52 pm 
heh! I left Spokane for California some years ago. I gotta say, our gummint is more sensical than yours! At least now.

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 9:15 pm 
I was rippin' past that gold creek complex today on I-90. Too many cars!!! That's not social distancing!!! What is goin' on

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PostSun Mar 22, 2020 9:48 pm 
Must be the concentration of folks in Washington compared to California because I've not seen these problems here. Or maybe we pay more attention and follow what is recommended . Anyway, we have our "liberty and freedum" wingnuts here , some imported from the NW, but most of us are happy to listen to science. The next few weeks will be critical to see if people acting for the common good was sufficient to HELP the common good. This is what is called "socialism" and even the most extreme are buying into it, if not the words. But whatever

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PostMon Mar 23, 2020 8:15 am 
RayD wrote:
This is what is called "socialism" and even the most extreme are buying into it, if not the words. But whatever
and we are all standing in bread lines to prove this.

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