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MtnGoat Member
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MtnGoat
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:55 am
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yeah, why would anyone want valid models. It's crazy.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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zephyr aka friendly hiker
Joined: 21 Jun 2009 Posts: 3361 | TRs | Pics Location: West Seattle |
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:13 am
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Bosterson wrote: | zephyr wrote: | Here's a video on shopping and cleaning groceries. |
This is pretty intense. My read is this level of anxiety is not warranted for the general public, especially those who are not at high risk of severe complications. |
Okay. If you think it's going overboard. I can pull it. I must admit it alarmed me considerably. But I had been doing some of those practices already--wiping down newly-arrived groceries for example.
Thanks, ~z
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Damian Member
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 11:56 am
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It is not going overboard for the general public if the intent is to prevent transmission and to reduce the death rate of the many who are indeed at risk. As well as reducing the risk of overloading hospitals. The ramifications far exceed serious illness or death of the general public.
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MtnGoat Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 11992 | TRs | Pics Location: Lyle, WA |
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:01 pm
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It seems to me this episode presents an opportunity to reevaluate so much of what has become common wisdom concerning urbanization, housing distancing, private vehicles, walls, borders, prepping, and so much more.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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MtnGoat Member
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:16 pm
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Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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half fast member
Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 1392 | TRs | Pics Location: Living the dream in my 5th Wheel |
It's all about the fun, oh and maybe the chocolate - half fast
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neek Member
Joined: 12 Sep 2011 Posts: 2329 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle, WA |
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 12:37 pm
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half fast wrote: | Interesting option to maybe think about... |
A 30 page ebook for $25 on healing with herbs? There's a separate thread for humor...
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half fast member
Joined: 21 Mar 2010 Posts: 1392 | TRs | Pics Location: Living the dream in my 5th Wheel |
It's all about the fun, oh and maybe the chocolate - half fast
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fourteen410 Member
Joined: 23 May 2008 Posts: 2622 | TRs | Pics
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Kirkland has placed mobile electronic message boards in the middle of busy roads that say "Don't flush wet wipes". Had to do a double take since those signs are usually only rolled in to warn of road hazards.
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cdestroyer Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2015 Posts: 1249 | TRs | Pics Location: montana |
the count here in montana so far:
* Gallatin County: 39
* Yellowstone County: 20
* Silver Bow County: 8
* Missoula County: 8
* Lewis and Clark County: 8
* Cascade County: 6
* Flathead County: 6
* Madison County: 2
* Broadwater County: 2
* Toole County: 2
* Park County: 1
* Jefferson County: 1
* Ravalli County: 1
* Meagher County: 1
* Roosevelt County: 1
* Hill County: 1
* Lincoln County: 1 death
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altasnob Member
Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 1382 | TRs | Pics Location: Tacoma |
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:59 pm
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Anne Elk wrote: | The underlying problem remains the need (and our continued inability) to test widely because of the transmissibility of the virus long before the infected person shows symptoms. Our containment failure is due an inexplicable refusal to use the WHO test when it was offered, and then compounded by our own ineptitude, both technical and bureaucratic: |
I get that the US botched initial testing, and even today, is not testing at the rate that we should be. My comments are more directed to future plans. It seems we have completely given up on the idea that we can use testing to trace contacts. At this point, the only reason we are testing at all is because it could play a factor in what treatment is provided, and it helps us have data regarding lethality and how prevalent the virus is in the population.
I'm disappointed we aren't even going to try to reduce numbers through testing like South Korea and Singapore. I get that there are so many people positive in the US today that it may be too late. But anything will help. Regardless of whether we relax social distancing on Easter, like Trump wants, or much later, like the consensus scientific community wants, the virus will still be present and we will still be living in fear until we reach herd immunity, which won't happen for 6 months to two years. In the meantime, if you want baseball, I heard South Korea's baseball league is going forward as planned because unlike us, they have used testing and contact tracing to keep their virus numbers low enough to still function as a society.
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Riverside Laker Member
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Jumble Jowls wrote: | The Swedes have the right idea: |
After watching "Hell on Wheels", I don't trust Swedes any more.
Oh wait, he was Norwegian!
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joker seeker
Joined: 12 Aug 2006 Posts: 7953 | TRs | Pics Location: state of confusion |
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:54 pm
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John Morrow wrote: | Has anyone mentioned this yet:
As of March 27, 2020, 20:57 GMT:
USA now exceeds 100,000 cases of coronavirus: 100,392 and counting.
We're number 1 again in the world. We need to stop being so proud of our accomplishments.... |
American exceptionalism in action
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xman_reborn Member
Joined: 27 May 2015 Posts: 129 | TRs | Pics
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joker wrote: | American exceptionalism in action |
Viruses LOVE big first world countries that are free.
You might find China more to your liking?
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MtnGoat Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 11992 | TRs | Pics Location: Lyle, WA |
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Fri Mar 27, 2020 4:38 pm
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I see shoulder chips the size of Everest.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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