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PostWed Jul 22, 2020 5:32 pm 
I’ve used rec.gov many times over the years. The price paid there has always been the same as the price listed by the park or campground. The only difference was the reservation fee, $8. Now I’m looking at the campgrounds along Baker lake, and the rec.gov prices are almost double, sometimes more than double, what the FS website says. Examples: Swift Creek, $18 regular site, $75 group site. This per the FS. Rec.gov says $27.30 regular, $139.02 group. Tiny little Park Creek, across the road from the lake, $12 per the FS. Rec.gov wants $22.75 to $27. This for a campground with a pit outhouse and no water. If this is their new way of charging then I am out. Has anyone else noticed this?

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PostThu Jul 23, 2020 11:17 am 
Rumor has it that MRNP will be migrating to rec.gov exclusively for wilderness permits in the post-covid era. No in-person permits. I will not be complying if I can't at least try for an overnight permit in person at the nearest ranger station or wilderness center. In other words, I will be using XC Zone locations for overnight camps and telling any BC rangers I encounter on the trail that I am "just out for a day trip." Why should I have to compete with European vacationers and east coasters for a wilderness permit in my own back yard? In a place I've enjoyed all my life. Yes, there ought to be at least a trace of local privilege. Not to mention there is a high likelihood the rec.gov permittee will be a no-show and the spot will go unused. I really DO want to follow the rules, but if Mount Rainier National Park eliminates in-person wilderness permitting, I will be breakin' the law moving forward.

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PostThu Jul 23, 2020 10:41 pm 
Brian R wrote:
Rumor has it that MRNP will be migrating to rec.gov exclusively for wilderness permits in the post-covid era. No in-person permits.
What's the source of your rumor?

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PostFri Jul 24, 2020 12:12 am 
Brian R wrote:
if Mount Rainier National Park eliminates in-person wilderness permitting, I will be breakin' the law moving forward.
ME TOO!! Look this is an outrage. I stand by you in issuing this threat!!!

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PostFri Jul 24, 2020 8:15 am 
just made a reservation at Teddy Roosevelt National Park and it was $14 a night

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PostFri Jul 24, 2020 9:19 am 
A couple years ago recreation.gov was farmed off to Booz Allen Hamilton. It costs a lot of money to be more efficient than the government!

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PostFri Jul 24, 2020 11:10 am 
I am surprised by the outrage over online permitting. I much prefer the new system at MRNP, it's super easy: I no longer need to go out of my way and stand around at Carbon River or wherever for half and hour waiting for the line of clueless tourists to finish asking their questions of the single ranger on duty to get a permit. Instead, I just make a few mouse clicks.

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PostFri Jul 24, 2020 11:55 am 
This thread is not about online permitting. It is about being charged double the price for a campsite. Even those mentioning online permits at Rainier are unhappy if it means paying for what was once free.

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PostFri Jul 24, 2020 12:09 pm 
Slugman, were you able to contact the forest service to see what the deal is?

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