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gb Member
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 6:51 am
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The trail for two to three hundred yards is bisected by a fresh fault - possibly from this summer. It is not a landslide slip because there is a broad bench below and the fault appears to be one of several movements that have happened in this same location over the years. This is about 1-1/4 to 1-1/2 miles west of Bogachiel Peak. The trail in fact appears to have been built directly on an older rendition of this fault and it is now split widthwise by from 2 to about 10' over a distance of 2-300 yards. The trail in this area was built on top of a sharp-crested buckle. There are several transverse faults of up to 10-15' wide and the trail in this area is now a scramble between and over large angular blocks that don't appear that stable - like unstable talus. The fault is pretty much filled with these angular blocks.
Several earlier faulting episodes in this area have left parallel cross-slope ridges and troughs that are from a couple of feet to 10 feet or so in height/depth.
The fault at one point longitudinally tore apart tree roots.
This is the first time I've ever seen something like this, though I know of the large old fault on Kindy Ridge.
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altasnob Member
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:35 am
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benneke Member
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 9:38 am
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I haven't been there this year but that fault section has been there at least since 2018, I'd be interested to hear if it has changed since then
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zimmertr TJ Zimmerman
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:11 pm
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Anyone have any photos? I am so darn interested in seeing this I might have to go myself!
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altersego Member
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I hiked it in August 2017 and remember thinking "why is the trail all effed up here?"
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meck Member
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:20 pm
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I've been around the loop several times over the last few years. I always assumed it was just a massive landslide getting ready to release (as I recall most everything to the west and below has already slid away, looks like a large dirt slope). I'd hate to be there when it goes.
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coldrain108 Thundering Herd
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I was just up there in July. We had a specific bench shaped rock that we used as a break time rest spot. It was gone. There is a really impressive crack splitting some solid rock. Boulders on end. From a distant vantage point you can see that the entire area is "sliding" into the Bogie river valley.
You can see the side hill trail at the upper right hand side just after the first rock slide.
When I first did that route in 1990 the trail didn't go out to the edge like that, it went down into the "vale" and back up to the Lunch Lake drop in.
I did this loop as my honeymoon in '90 and I've been back many time since then. Crazy when recognized landmarks disappear. No more "Tea Rock"!
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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gb Member
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 9:36 am
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The area where the faulting is occurring in at the top of the rounded bench above the grey talus in the image. The grey talus itself doesn't make sense unless perhaps the whole bench was at one time a large skip landslide.
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Brushbuffalo Member
Joined: 17 Sep 2015 Posts: 1887 | TRs | Pics Location: there earlier, here now, somewhere later... Bellingham in between |
gb wrote: | The trail for two to three hundred yards is bisected by a fresh fault - possibly from this summer. It is not a landslide slip because there is a broad bench below and the fault appears to be one of several movements that have happened in this same location over the years |
Good observation and notes, gb.
This and other surface fractures in that area are almost certainly scarps (abrupt breaks) from relatively slow-moving intermittent mass movement. Although the whole region is certainly seismically very active over geologic time, there is little or no evidence that these scarps are tectonic in origin. But in the broadest sense the mountains are tectonic uplifts, so there is a connection of superficial features to deep-seated orogenic (mountain-building) processes.
Passing rocks and trees like they were standing still
Passing rocks and trees like they were standing still
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 10:52 am
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I’ve been there twice but each time dropped down to Lunch lake, and so missed that section.
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coldrain108 Thundering Herd
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Slugman wrote: | I’ve been there twice but each time dropped down to Lunch lake, and so missed that section. |
If you came up from the Deer Lake side you crossed over it, and there would have been little signs of this activity except this year. There was a smallish bit of a steep eroded dirt crossing, but the rocky section was stable and easily walked over. Now it is a tumbled rock slide with big impressive gaps between the rocks, clear that the ground moved a bit. The trail is split open. Still not too hard to get around it...my boulder field squeamish wife made it with no issues.
Here is a picture of my wife sitting on "tea rock" in 2013...now gone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
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Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:42 pm
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Whoops, last time I was there was 8 years ago.
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Brushbuffalo Member
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Quoting from "Geology of Olympic National Park" by Rowland Tabor ( p. 103):
"At the head of the Bogachiel River, the Bogachiel Peak Trail detours around a peculiar depression filled with a jumble of sandstone blocks. Gravity produced this ridgetop depression by pulling the steeply dipping beds of sandstone away from the Bogachiel Peak ridge and down into the cirque below. It is likely this sort of ridge failure, quite common throughout the Olympics, came shortly after alpine glaciers melted away, removing their support from the oversteepened valley walls."
I reported on similar features on another High Divide and ( less prominently) on Anderson Mountain in Whatcom County.
There is a photo and drawing ( fig. 83 in this book) that matches the one submitted by coldrain108 in this thread. The prominent gray slope of boulders below and to the left of the higher depression is shown, and as several posters have commented, periodic movement is ongoing.
Earth is always changing on different space and time scales... sometimes slowly, sometimes catastrophically, at still other times at rates that tumble boulders about and produce surface scarps that develop in hours to days.
Passing rocks and trees like they were standing still
Passing rocks and trees like they were standing still
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