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Looking at the BIG picture, maybe massive funding would come if Rainier would have the long dreaded eruption.
Congress was very generous with the GPNF after St Helens blew. Money was no object. Then it dried up and facilities were closed and roads went to pot.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Cyclopath
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:05 pm |
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| Ski wrote: | | I encountered were families on sightseeing tours, travelling with cars full of kids and dogs and Grandma and Grandpa and all of the clutter one would expect from such a group: ice chests, suitcases and the like.
Are these people supposed to just leave the animals in their cars while they ride the shuttle, and schlep all of their crap with them?
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They're done to leave fluffy at home. That was a really easy question. What an I supposed to do if I'm traveling with my gun and they aren't allowed in national parks? How does this work in Zion?
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:08 pm |
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Firearms have been allowed in National Parks for years.
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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treeswarper
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:13 pm |
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That's the big reason I pretty much avoid NPs. I usually travel with "Fluffy". The National Parks are downright Fluffy hostile.
The Grand Canyon is an exception. They had a kennel on the South Rim where my friends boarded their Fluffy while we went backpacking. I wish more parks did that.
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
What's especially fun about sock puppets is that you can make each one unique and individual, so that they each have special characters. And they don't have to be human––animals and aliens are great possibilities
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Ski
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:34 pm |
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| Cyclopath wrote: | | They're done to leave fluffy at home. |
You were of course aware, were you not, that the dog population of the City of Seattle exceeds that of the human population?
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
"I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each."
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Cyclopath
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:56 pm |
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| Ski wrote: | | Firearms have been allowed in National Parks for years. |
Thanks for keeping me honest. 
Here's a better analogy. An ex sold cruises. One day she came home talking about a customer who wanted to go to the Sistine Chapel, which requires all visitors to wear pants, but this customer wanted to bring only dresses. She was forced to choose between wearing pants or not visiting.
Similarly if we don't allow dogs on the shuttle, people will have to leave them home, or go to one of the many other places does are allowed. And if we require clothes on the shuttle, I won't be able to get a sunburn where the sun doesn't shine while I chat strangers up on the bus.
And yeah, I know, to live in Seattle you're required to have a dog, a tattoo, and a latte. And no children.
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I don't get too excited about dogs in NPs--unless the owners are otherwise obnoxious. (See my recent Shriner Peak experience for clarification.) Stephen Mather had all the wolves (and cougars) professionally hunted out of many national parks, including MRNP, in the 1910s and 20s so visitors would be more at ease. Fast forward a hundred years; if their dog cousins chase an ungulate through the woods now and then, well, it's only natural.
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Wed Aug 19, 2020 5:12 pm |
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| Ski wrote: | | Firearms have been allowed in National Parks for years. |
Thanks Obama! Seriously.
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| treeswarper wrote: | | Congress was very generous with the GPNF after St Helens blew. Money was no object. Then it dried up and facilities were closed and roads went to pot. |
Two reasons: Senator Warren G. Magnuson and Senator Henry M. Jackson. They got things done back then.
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| Brian R wrote: | | I don't get too excited about dogs in NPs--unless the owners are otherwise obnoxious. (See my recent Shriner Peak experience for clarification.) Stephen Mather had all the wolves (and cougars) professionally hunted out of many national parks, including MRNP, in the 1910s and 20s so visitors would be more at ease. Fast forward a hundred years; if their dog cousins chase an ungulate through the woods now and then, well, it's only natural. |
Fluffy chases the ungulate and goes missing. Now you have big problems and possibly tied up search and rescue. Realistically even if dogs were allowed, but had to be on a leash, a large percentage of owners would still let their dogs roam free. You can see that everyday in city parks.
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