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Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:31 pm
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:37 pm
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neek Member
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:37 pm
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Yeah it's really bad. My relatives in rural Clackamas County (Oregon) are preparing to evacuate.
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RumiDude Marmota olympus
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 5:47 pm
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I know some people in north end of Ashland that got mandatory evac orders.
Rumi
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
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thunderhead Member
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Ya, today(and last night) is one of the worst fire days in modern American history.
From IR satellite(channel 7 on the new GOES is the best flavor of IR for fire detection and seeing through smoke) it looks like approximately 1/10th of Oregon's national forest is burning. So much fire...
The Santiam and McKenzie river valleys are wiped out, there's a fire on the outskirts of Portland, and I haven't even looked at the newer fires that popped up today further south along the I5 corridor in southern OR.
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Joined: 29 Jul 2006 Posts: 3516 | TRs | Pics Location: Gateway to the Columbia Gorge |
It appears that we have lost the beautiful Opal Creek old growth area that we worked so hard to save from logging in the 1980s and 90s. The little Beachie Creek (now renamed the Santiam) fire blew up and has burned down the North Santiam Canyon (OR 22), now threatening the Willamette Valley towns of Stayton, Sublimity, Silverton and Aumsville. It is expected to merge with the Lionshead Fire. Silver Falls State Park was evacuated early this morning. There's no way to stop a fire with these winds, just try to get people out of the way. There's really nothing to stop it rippng through Salem and going all the way to the coast until the east winds die down. Hopefully they will die down by Thursday.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.--E.Abbey
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view.--E.Abbey
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I think the population centers of Salem and Eugene are relatively safe... winds are pushing out of the Columbia and up the Willamette, placing those cities under northerly winds, and there's a lot of irrigated low biomass cropland in that valley that won't want to burn much. The IR fire signatures have stopped advancing towards those 2 cities (though the McKenzie river fire is concerningly close to Eugene's eastern suburbs).
But those poor river valleys(Santiam and McKenzie) are burnt out and the destruction in so many other parts of OR is terrible:(
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RumiDude Marmota olympus
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:44 pm
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thunderhead wrote: | But those poor river valleys(Santiam and McKenzie) are burnt out and the destruction in so many other parts of OR is terrible:( |
Last year while hiking the PCT through Oregon, the destruction of vast swaths of forest was evident everywhere I went. I remarked then that if that kept up there would not be a tree for shade along the PCT in Oregon within twenty years. That may prove to be true.
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"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
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MyFootHurts Huge Member
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Grannyhiker wrote: | Opal Creek old growth |
Dont those big trees usually survive fires?
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RumiDude Marmota olympus
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Tue Sep 08, 2020 9:59 pm
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MyFootHurts wrote: | Grannyhiker wrote: | Opal Creek old growth |
Dont those big trees usually survive fires? |
Depends on the fire. A really hot fire like we are seeing in most of these recent fires will get most of the trees regardless.
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"This is my Indian summer ... I'm far more dangerous now, because I don't care at all."
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MyFootHurts Huge Member
Joined: 22 Nov 2011 Posts: 912 | TRs | Pics Location: Kekistan |
Wow I'm just catching up with the news, forget the trees they're worried the whole city of Salem might burn!
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altasnob Member
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:08 pm
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We have relatives who lost their home in Talent.
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drm Member
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Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:45 pm
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Folks - Sometimes the fastest moving fires also skip around a lot and leave a lot of unburned areas. The super high winds move embers long distances and some areas, especially west-facing slopes, may just get passed over. Also sometimes they are low intensity and don't actually kill the trees. We just won't know how bad it is until we are able to get in there.
What is most unprecedented here is how much it has burned in populated areas. When the winds are that strong, about all you can do is get out of the way. We can get in our cars and escape, our homes can't.
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