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PostFri Oct 23, 2020 5:45 pm 
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A good weather window is starting tomorrow.  That said, the window of realistic survival has passed, as the weather over the previous couple weeks was not nearly no so nice.

The zion hiker was indeed in much better weather, and on top of that it was probably fake.
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PostFri Oct 23, 2020 7:33 pm 
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zimmertr wrote:
A Change.org petition is making the rounds to extend the search for him.

https://www.change.org/p/mount-rainier-an-appeal-to-continue-the-search-for-sam-dubal

A change.org petition and $5 will get you a latte at Starbucks.

There are dozens of people that have disappeared and never been found within Mt Rainier National Park -- the SAR folks know what they are doing far more than "the general public"  about the chances for finding someone alive.
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PostFri Oct 23, 2020 7:36 pm 
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thunderhead wrote:
A good weather window is starting tomorrow.

Yasureyahbetch -- and the storm that came through today brought snow to elevations as low as 3000 feet.

Are you volunteering to particpate in the search effort ?
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PostSat Oct 24, 2020 10:08 am 
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And yeah, people are referencing the supposed 19 days that "other parks" will search, and have supposedly found lost hikers, on the Mt Rainier Facebook post about the search suspension today.
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PostSat Oct 24, 2020 10:36 am 
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Mount Rainier National Park suspends ground search for missing UW professor
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PostSat Oct 24, 2020 12:17 pm 
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Tahoma Mtn Rescue also posted this notice on their  for page.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3882302408498582&id=139204602808400&sfnsn=mo

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In the last few years we've sadly seen the rise of the "Private Search" scam. These are the crooks who pray on the grief of those who have loved ones lost in the Washington wilderness.

They encourage heartbroken families & friends to run Facebook, GoFundMe & JustGiving campaigns then take thousands - often tens of thousands - of dollars to pay themselves to wander about the woods for just as long as they can ride that gravy train.

They use plenty of jargon, spend plenty of time updating blogs, vlogs, tweets and stoking social media. They boast of search skills and outdoor abilities - but they never apply, test or volunteer to join professional SAR. They just claim that they need more and more money. Strange how quickly it always runs out.

Please, share with your friends, that Washington is home to the Founder members of the national Mountain Rescue Association. These teams are volunteer run charities, made up of hundreds of some of the best mountaineers, rescue riggers and wilderness searchers in the US. Members are tested, trained, accredited SAR professionals who volunteer & ask for no pay or reward except for finding the lost and protecting the outdoor community. All donations just go toward much needed gear, gas and more training.

If you are lucky enough to have the time, skills or money and wish to do something to help rescue people lost or injured in the wilderness, then join or support your Mountain Rescue Team directly. If you have nothing spare to give - that's ok too - we'll still be there for you when the call comes to go out into the storm and get you.

Thank you on behalf of the next life saved.

Support your local MRA or SAR team at www.tacomamountainrescue.org, Olympic Mountain Rescue, Seattle Mountain Rescue, Everett Mountain Rescue, Central Washington Mountain Rescue, Volcano Rescue Team and beyond.   
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PostSun Oct 25, 2020 2:15 pm 
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Search has resumed: https://www.nps.gov/mora/learn/news/search-resumed-for-missing-hiker-in-mount-rainier-national-park.htm

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Search resumed for missing hiker in Mount Rainier National Park

Date: October 25, 2020
Contact: Patti Wold, PIO, 360-569-6563

With an improved weather window, search teams in Mount Rainier National Park resumed ground-based search operations early Sunday, Oct. 25 for missing hiker, Dr. Sam Dubal.

Experienced search and rescue professionals from the National Park Service (NPS) and 10 partner search and rescue organizations began searching for Dr. Dubal on Oct. 12 when he was first reported overdue. As weather conditions have permitted, daily searches have included ground-based field teams, canine teams, drones, helicopters and the use of Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) heat detection cameras from the air. 

Park rangers believe Dr. Dubal went missing while hiking the Mowich Lake area of Mount Rainier, an area that includes rugged, remote wilderness. The search area ranges from 2,000 to 5,000 feet in elevation and includes dense forests, treacherous rocky terrain, exposed subalpine meadows and mountain lakes and streams including a section of the Carbon River. Several recent winter storms have blanketed much of the area in snow and temperatures have been in the high 20s to low 30s with temperatures below freezing as low as 1,500 feet in elevation. A storm on Oct. 10, the day after Dr. Dubal began his hike, washed out the rustic river crossing he would have used to cross the Carbon River. 

The NPS asks anyone who may have any information that could help investigators to please contact the NPS Investigative Service Branch (ISB) Tip Line. CALL or TEXT at (888) 653-0009, EMAIL nps_isb@nps.gov or submit tips ONLINE at www.nps.gov/ISB. 

Park staff are continually monitoring search area conditions, as well as localized weather - which can change rapidly due to Mount Rainierís terrain and the mountainís impact on local weather conditions. Search leaders will evaluate the safety and feasibility of all search activities to ensure safety for park and partner rescue staff. Much like other public safety professionals, including firefighters and emergency medical services providers, rescuers must consider their personal safety and weigh the risk of search and rescue operations with the likelihood of a successful rescue. Use of helicopters is one of the highest risk methods of searching for missing people and specific weather and visibility conditions must be met. 

Similar to Washington counties and national forests surrounding the park, Mount Rainier National Park has experienced a record number of searches during 2020. Of the parkís more than 60 searches this year, one hiker remains missing and one mountaineer was located deceased but could not be recovered due to continuous and hazardous icefall conditions.

The National Park Service appreciates the assistance of the many organizations that have assisted with the search: Olympic Mountain Rescue, Seattle Mountain Rescue, Tacoma Mountain Rescue, Central Washington Mountain Rescue, Pierce County Explorer Search and Rescue, Kitsap County Explorer Search and Rescue, Cowlitz County Search and Rescue, Pierce County German Shepard Search Dogs, Washington State Search and Rescue Planning Unit and Mount Rainier Volunteer Nordic Patrol. 

As a reminder- the National Park Service uses drones for certain operations including search and rescue, fire operations and research, but recreational use of unmanned aircraft by the public is prohibited.

Mowich Road typically closes for the season during mid-October, and is currently closed due to winter conditions. Icy road conditions across the park have also delayed public vehicle access from Longmire to the popular Paradise area as of Sunday morning.
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PostSun Oct 25, 2020 3:24 pm 
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Randito wrote:
thunderhead wrote:
A good weather window is starting tomorrow.

Yasureyahbetch -- and the storm that came through today brought snow to elevations as low as 3000 feet.

Are you volunteering to particpate in the search effort ?

Did I say Friday, or did I say tomorrow(Saturday?).  Was Rainier completely clear with light winds all weekend?  It was?  Weird.
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