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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 4:26 pm 
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I thought I was good at the internet, but I'm having trouble finding resources for snow camping.   Everything I am finding relates to snowshoe daytrips, which doesn't help me. in particular: where to park and where you can do it overnight.

I'm new to the forums, been in Seattle(Ballard)for 3 years now. Took a snow camping course with Sierra Club in San Francisco 10 years ago right before being unexpectedly exiled to Manhattan.  I want to get back out overnight in the winter. I wish I owned ski's but don't(maybe next winter) so it's snowshoes for me. The snow camping course did not include avalanche safety training.

I was looking at Gold Creek Pond TH, as it's a sno-park that seems to permit overnight parking, but then I saw a trip report on WTA from yesterday (12/20) that says the road to the parking lot is closed so they had to park on the road; I'm guessing overnight parking on the road is no bueno? I do Zipcar, so showing to find out I can't park would be not cool.

I could always go down to Longmire, but I'm looking for someplace closer, like the I-90 corridor. Saw a recommendation somewhere for Commonwealth Basin(I've snow-shoed there before) but where would you park overnight? 

Any recommendations/resources to point me to? I'm happy to do my own research, but I've hit a wall here.

You don't have to tell me your secret spots, but general recommendations welcome.
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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 4:50 pm 
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parking overnight on almost any forest road is okey, as long as you can find a place where you can do it without blocking the road. Many higher roads are snowed over however, so you might need to start low and hike up to get to snow.
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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 5:00 pm 
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I would park at surprise lake trailhead. Highway 2, plowed. And find a place to camp WITHIN SHORT distance of car.
Close enough to get there in the dark in 10 minutes.
You just want to get a taste of the cold and not turn it into an  epic experience .

The more foam pads to sleep on the better.

Have fun.

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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 5:12 pm 
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Also see previous gear topic
http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8031178&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

You can also search multiple trip reports on Snow Camping

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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 5:29 pm 
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The Gold Creek Sno-Park does allow overnight parking.   However I don't reccomend the Gold Creek Valley as a snow camping destination as anywhere far enough up the valley to be out of the "hum zone" from the freeway will be in the run out zone for avalanches, which in extreme conditions have run down one side of the valley , crossed the creek and climbed hundreds of feet up the otherside.
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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 6:33 pm 
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One thing to keep in mind is the weather forecast for snow...you don't want to end up like this guy or your vehicle might spend the winter out in the woods. http://www.nwhikers.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7988073&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 8:42 pm 
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I recently found https://winterbackpacking.com/ and it has some good information
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PostMon Dec 21, 2020 9:04 pm 
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My .02:

Skyline Lake off hwy 2 is an awesome place to test winter camping gear - it's a road walk up to the lake, good views over the ski area, and an easy bail if things go south. This area is extremely popular on weekends.

When you're ready to up your game - take some time to study topo maps and read trip reports here. Caltopo has a nice 'slope angle' shading layer that is very helpful for double checking your research and avoiding no-go avalanche terrain.

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PostTue Dec 22, 2020 4:27 pm 
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This is all really helpful.  The winterbacking.com is probably what I'm looking for, and I'm going to have to look at a Caltopo subscription to supplement all trails on my phone

I'm leaning toward Mt Rainier, heading to Louise Lake from Narada Falls tomorrow(Wednesday) night.  Forecast is pretty mild 34F/25F, sunny and little wind. I figure if I'm going to drive 2 hours up Hwy 2, I might as well make it 3 and go to Rainier.  But Surprise and Skyline Lake look good for the future, though driving back west down from Stevens pass freaks me out, it feels like I'm about to drive off the edge of the world.

Thanks for all the help.
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PostTue Dec 29, 2020 12:15 pm 
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https://www.seattletimes.com/life/outdoors/winter-camping-might-sound-intriguing-but-make-sure-youre-prepared-before-you-go/

This was just in the paper and I thought it was useful as I'm in the same boat as you.
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PostThu Jan 14, 2021 11:24 pm 
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Be careful going all the way into surprise lake a large portion of that trail is a terrain trap. I'd take a good look at nwac first.

Not everyone knows avy safety and terrain. Just because other people do something and it's on WTA does not make it safe.

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PostFri Jan 15, 2021 1:36 pm 
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SwitchbackFisher wrote:
Not everyone knows avy safety and terrain. Just because other people do something and it's on WTA does not make it safe.

Indeed.
And just because you see footprints in the snow it does not mean that it is safe to follow them.

Any snow travel in the mtns should be preceded by thorough education concerning avalanches.
Read books about the subject (preferably than one).
Take an avalanche course.
Be safe.
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PostFri Jan 15, 2021 3:10 pm 
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With any of the ski areas, make sure you're in the proper overnight lot or you'll get buried by snowplows during the night. Also be sure to have a good shovel in the car.
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