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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
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Gregory Member
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Pyrites Member
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$33B (final $40B?).
Is this intended as straw man just to point out it’s too expensive?
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Sculpin Member
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Pyrites wrote: | Is this intended as straw man just to point out it’s too expensive? |
I understand the sticker shock.
But all the numbers here are in the billions. Idaho produces around $3B annually in agricultural products, the value of the restored salmon may approach $1B a year, etc.
A point I have made before: in this era, we are not removing dams for fin and fur, per se, we are removing them because the cost now exceeds the benefit (power got cheap, salmon got expensive).
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Stefan Member
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I wonder how much each salmon has cost with all this. What is the price per lb?
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Randito Snarky Member
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Malachai Constant Member
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Stefan wrote: | I wonder how much each salmon has cost with all this. What is the price per lb? |
About $10 a lb at Costco and QFC for wild caught Alaskan Reds much higher for Kings
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Pyrites Member
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There had previously been discussion speculating that the upper Elwha chinook were predominantly spring chinook.There has also been discussion that the Elwha spring chinook is extinct.
The view of separately time runs has been changed by this article:
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/370/6516/609
Keep Calm and Carry On?
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Randito Snarky Member
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Malachai Constant wrote: | Stefan wrote: | I wonder how much each salmon has cost with all this. What is the price per lb? |
About $10 a lb at Costco and QFC for wild caught Alaskan Reds much higher for Kings |
If the goal of salmon restoration is more fish to eat, then salmon farming is a more cost effective approach than dam removal.
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Gregory Member
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
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Salmon farming produces disgusting garbage that is unfit to eat. Also there is no benefit to polluting waters and spreading disease and parasites like there is in restoring natural habitat and systems.
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