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PostThu Feb 18, 2021 8:09 am 
Well they have had time to do a lot of prep work on the project due to one person who was a thorn in their side.

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PostThu Feb 18, 2021 12:08 pm 
ale_capone wrote:
That's hilarious, ale!

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PostThu Feb 18, 2021 5:17 pm 
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any idea on how long repair is expected to take once work begins?
3 years. Work is supposed to shut down October-March each year. I don't know if this would be changed by mild weather. I suppose it's also possible that since the low bid came in under engineer's estimate that the work would also take fewer days than projected.
Wow. 3 years to do four-tenths of a mile. Mind boggling.

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PostThu Feb 18, 2021 11:40 pm 
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Wow. 3 years to do four-tenths of a mile. Mind boggling.
Year and a half, three six month seasons, 400 work days and change. But I thought the same thing until I went through the bid package. It's a pretty involved job on a steep narrow ROW: Lots of structural fill, gabions maybe, a 180 foot bridge at the upstream end, construction and removal of temporary roads for access, restricted in-channel work to remove old roadbed materials, Marbled Murrelet partial shutdown if I remember right, lots of import coming a long ways in legal loads...all kinds of ways to suck up time. The low bid, if accepted, only left about 200K on the table; they should be pretty happy right now. What I find boggling is the seventeen years that will have elapsed since date fo the flood when it is finally reopened. It's a fair bet that the price of repairs doubled or tripled in that time span.

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PostFri Feb 19, 2021 5:35 am 
Still can't recall who said they could do it faster by themselves and a shovel? I think they may have been correct. I would like to see Danny McCaskill come and trial the culvert and concrete area of the sky before they clean it up. I've 'hiked the washout more times then I can count. Kind of fun linking concrete barriers..

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PostFri Feb 19, 2021 5:36 am 
Quark wrote:
That's hilarious, ale!
Thanks! I try.. and I could not find those last 3 trees. But would you count this or 1 or 2, 3? I think 2399 is behind, in the middle. There where other multi trunke trees that got counted as more then 1.

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PostFri Feb 19, 2021 9:39 am 
ale_capone wrote:
multi trunke
Ah, you're speaking Middle English. Interesting choice.

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PostThu Apr 01, 2021 4:16 pm 
The repair starts again again again again again again again again again again again again

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PostThu Apr 01, 2021 7:57 pm 
I was up that way yesterday and saw the county boys

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PostSat Apr 03, 2021 7:44 am 
That road has to be like number 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 on the list of important monies to spend hockeygrin.gif . LOL

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PostThu Apr 08, 2021 6:03 am 
Come on Tom its time to wake up and smell the flowers

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PostFri May 14, 2021 8:54 am 
Anyone been up Jack's Pass yet? I have reservations for Troublesome CG for Memorial Day weekend and I'm slightly concerned about access given the high snow winter, although with this warm spring maybe I shouldn't be. By the way, you know what's crazy and kind of funny? Google maps STILL sends people up Index-Galena road when you just do google directions to, say, Blanca Lake trailhead. I don't know how that has not gotten reported and fixed after 15 frickin' years. EDIT: right after posting this, found this from 3 days ago. Uh oh... How many feet can melt in 2 weeks in spring? https://www.skyko.org/#old_format

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PostFri May 14, 2021 5:55 pm 
Foist wrote:
I have reservations for Troublesome CG for Memorial Day weekend
How long has Troublesome been managed by Recreation.gov? I thought that it reverted to primitive status after the road washout. Good luck trying to get money back from them if you've already given them any.

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PostFri May 14, 2021 6:16 pm 
They reopened it several years ago. We've camped there a couple times since. They completely redid the sw loop.

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PostFri May 14, 2021 6:24 pm 
Foist, I tried to get to Jack Pass today. Not sure how close we got, but we abruptly ran into a couple of feet of snow. Too deep for my Forester to handle.

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