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Slide Alder Slayer Member
Joined: 14 Jan 2002 Posts: 1960 | TRs | Pics
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Packpup and I have done many 6-7 day trips. One of the obvious facts of packing food for that duration is volume and weight. The other consideration is the weather. Nothing is worse then preparing a complex meal in foul weather, so getting a custom forecast from Washington Online Weather really helps us decide what to take.
For breakfast it's Muesli with some dried milk and protein powder pre mixed in a zip lock bag, add water, and I have an instant 500 calories.
For lunch it is Pilat Bread, and peanut butter and jam squeezers from Enertia Trail Foods, another quick 500 calories.
For dinner we use Enertia Trail Foods. The dinner meals are already vacuum-sealed and the weight is considerably less then other pre-packaged meals. Also, Enertia does not freeze dry their foods, and boost calories with very tasty sauces that reconstitute easily. For desert there are short bread cookies at 100 calories apiece.
On a long trip there are two taste buds that we need to feed, salt and sweat. Our snacks consist of Zen Mix for salt, and Golden Grams mixed with honey-roasted peanuts for sweet. In all over 2,500 calories at about 1 1/2 pounds per day.
You mentioned that cookware and stoves would not be a problem. For two people and seven days we use one titanium pot to boil water and less than one large MSR/Snow Peak canister, or considerably less that one large (300g) Coleman Powermax canister. Stove selection is based on conditions and varies from our Snow Peak Gigapower Titanium for fair weather, to a Coleman Max Extreme with MSR windscreen or MSR Rapid Fire for higher altitude and windy/foul weather conditions. For mid winter it’s strictly white gas, and for snow camping in the early spring, it’s Coleman’s Max Extreme again with MSR windscreen.
Hanging or storing 8 days worth of food is also a consideration. For long trips we use Outdoor Research Hydroseal Stuff Sacks. Basically waterproof, hang easily from trees, and compress nicely as the volume of food shrinks. All different sizes available. Two medium stuff sacks might work better than one large sack, as 8 days of food in one large sack would be a challenge to store in any backpack under 5,000 cu in.
Have a great trip!
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Allison Feckless Swooner
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 12287 | TRs | Pics Location: putting on my Nikes before the comet comes |
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Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:03 pm
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Quote: | instant eggs, scrambled (mix them in a baggie and boil them) |
So let me get this straight:
Put yer dried eggs and whatever goodness you like in them in the baggie at home. In camp, add the appropriate amount of water, stir, and then boil the whole thing like you cook a Tasty bite, with the bag in the water.
Is that right, 'cuz I'm all over that if it is.
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Jeepasaurusrex Member
Joined: 05 Oct 2004 Posts: 1079 | TRs | Pics Location: Arlington, WA |
Buy a case of Military MREs. You can break the boxes down so that there is only the food packets and necessary componets you want to take. When I was in the Army, I could pack a weeks worth of food into what many would consider a daypack. High in calories, and on a plus side, you wont have to goto the bathroom for a week!
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Jeff R Closet hiker.
Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Posts: 972 | TRs | Pics Location: Everret |
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Jeff R
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Thu Jun 30, 2005 7:47 pm
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I have just recently contemplated filling a 3 liter camelback bladder (or Nalgene) with "Espresso love" Gu,.. kinda like a hamster bottle, you know, the watering apparatus , ala lab rat style!
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jenjen Moderatrix
Joined: 30 Jun 2003 Posts: 7617 | TRs | Pics Location: Sierra stylin |
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Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:55 pm
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marylou wrote: | Quote: | instant eggs, scrambled (mix them in a baggie and boil them) |
So let me get this straight:
Put yer dried eggs and whatever goodness you like in them in the baggie at home. In camp, add the appropriate amount of water, stir, and then boil the whole thing like you cook a Tasty bite, with the bag in the water.
Is that right, 'cuz I'm all over that if it is. |
Yep, you got it right. Make sure you use a freezer bag and keep the water just below boiling so the bag doesn't melt. Works great.
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sarbar Living The Dream
Joined: 28 Jan 2002 Posts: 8055 | TRs | Pics Location: Freeland, Wa |
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sarbar
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:32 am
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Heck I just ate that for breakfast (I test all new boxes of freezer bags I buy at home)
Chopped up a piece of turket, threw in some cheese, cracked in 2 eggs, sealed out the air, and mixed it up good and plenty.
Then pop the bag in water that is simmering, (but had been brought to a boil)
Pull it out a couple times and squish it around carefully to make sure it is cooking evenly.
Oh yeah, and the eggs just slide on out......talk about nonstick.
Tasty!
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tennessee treader Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 337 | TRs | Pics Location: Trapped in Tennessee :( |
Does the applesauce stay good without refridgeration?
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tennessee treader Member
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 337 | TRs | Pics Location: Trapped in Tennessee :( |
MRE's!!!!! one case of food poisoning is all you would need to stay away from those. I gave them up after being fed involuntarily in the Marine Corps (God bless 'em).
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aestivate Member
Joined: 19 Mar 2004 Posts: 199 | TRs | Pics
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Bring fat, in one form or another. It has the best calories-to-weight ratio. Personally, I favor olive oil. I add it to hot foods.
Peanut butter, almond butter, salami are good lunch foods, being fatty.
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Malachai Constant Member
Joined: 13 Jan 2002 Posts: 16092 | TRs | Pics Location: Back Again Like A Bad Penny |
Fat has the most calories but it takes too long to metabolize for most short trips if you are on an eight week sealing trip in the arctic it's great
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aestivate Member
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Malachai Constant wrote: | Fat has the most calories but it takes too long to metabolize for most short trips if you are on an eight week sealing trip in the arctic it's great |
You're suggesting people have trouble extracting useful energy from french fries, ice cream, or chocolate? Dubious. Certainly a diet of pure fat poses metabolic challenges, but a high-fat diet, in a situation where you are doing sustained moderate-intensity exercise (e.g., six to eight hours of daily walking, for a week or more) makes a great deal of sense.
I suppose you have a point in the context of, say, weekend trips. Altering your diet or your rhythms too much from the habitual can be troublesome. But a week is plently long enough for adaptation to make sense. In the context of *long* trips, say two weeks or more on foot, without resupplying, I know I'm right. Fat-rich food will keep you on your feet, and they deliver a lot of calories for the weight. "energy bars" won't. Freeze-dried meals are too expensive, are too insubstantial, without you add fat.
Aboriginal travel foods, such as pemmican, were pretty damn high in fat.
I suppose we could bring in ultra-marathoners, the atkins diet, etc. Not that I think the atkins diet is in any way sensible in an urban context, but it does illustrate the possibility of training your metabolism to use fat for ready energy. A trick that all ultra-marathoners also must master.
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mpaul_hansen Member
Joined: 05 Apr 2003 Posts: 246 | TRs | Pics
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mpaul_hansen
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Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:17 pm
balanced diet - long backcountry trips....
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RE: balanced diet - long backcountry trips....
This is based on years of experience leading groups on backcountry trips of 1 week or more in the Cascades, Olympics, Rockies and Alps.
Suggest to all participants to bring along a supply of MULTI-VITAMINS.
Even if your diet is less than perfect [ie the recommended food pyramid], this seems to be beneficial for maintaining health.
PS also bring other non-prescription medicines for GI system upsets, etc.
...my preference is also to bring along a small amount of dried fruits...
which are relatively inexpensive being purchased from the Grocer.
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