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TrailPair Member
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This thing called work is interfering with my play
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Dante Member
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:47 pm
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I've thought about this a lot since Backpacker Joe and I rafted Hinman LAKE. At about a mile long and a half mile wide, the lake is impressive, until you look up and realize the entire valley was mostly filled with ice when I was born 42 years ago...
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MCaver Founder
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:30 pm
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Glacier NP has gome from something like 100 glaciers to just 5 in the last century.
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MtnGoat Member
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:34 pm
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I love glaciers, but I guess I'm not seeing this as a permanent thing, they've been receding for a long, long time and they'll be back, as the ice age cycles back around. It's very pretty, spectacular, and cool, and i'll miss them, but that's geology combined with climate... never static! The only constant is change, I've seen ice my kidlet will never see, and he'll paddle lakes that didn't exist when I was out scrambling.
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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Marmotneer Member
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MtnGoat Member
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:41 pm
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cool site!
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock. - Will Rogers
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jimmymac Zip Lock Bagger
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Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:55 pm
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All the new "bare pavement" high on GP was supposedly a significant factor in why the heavy rainfall in October 2003 resulted in such a huge streamflow spike.
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
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"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:56 am
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oops.. I see this address is already linked.
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Dante Member
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 11:22 am
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MtnGoat wrote: | I love glaciers, but I guess I'm not seeing this as a permanent thing, they've been receding for a long, long time and they'll be back, as the ice age cycles back around. It's very pretty, spectacular, and cool, and i'll miss them, but that's geology combined with climate... never static! The only constant is change, I've seen ice my kidlet will never see, and he'll paddle lakes that didn't exist when I was out scrambling. |
That it happens doesn't surprise or concern me as much as how fast it happens. IIRC the 7.5 minute map with hinman on it was updated in 1964 - the year of my birth. In "only" 42 years, it's gone from what you see on the map to nothing.
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TrailPair Member
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OK, so accepting the fact that the glaciers are disappearing until the next ice age or until the demise of the human creature....whichever comes first.....What will the names of such places be on the maps...... Formerly known as the Anderson Glacier....or maybe the Emmons Galcier (used to be)...or maybe in remeberance of the Sulfide Glacier?
I am not making light of the situation...it seems to me that the state of our glaceirs world wide is in a critical state.
This thing called work is interfering with my play
This thing called work is interfering with my play
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scm007 Member
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 7:47 pm
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I've come to the conconclusion that humanity doesn't have the willpower to stop, or at least try to stop the global warming. As such, I have decided to stop worrying about it.
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
When Krakatoa went up it put more crap into the atmosphere than all the cars have/will forever! And that was just one volcano. "Some" people are to damn certain of themselves that humans are the cause for this. Cooling and warming trends have and do happen all the time on this rock. We haven't had the technology to study this place long enough to be sure of any of this theory. There are as many scientists who disagree in global warming as who agree with it. Oh, and that hole in the ozone layer, it's repairing itself and shrinking.
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
"If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."
— Abraham Lincoln
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philfort Member
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Thu Oct 05, 2006 9:37 pm
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Backpacker Joe wrote: | There are as many scientists who disagree in global warming as who agree with it. |
A climate scientist I know said there is near complete consenus among peers that there is human caused global warming. Your favorite media outlet may disagree.
Backpacker Joe wrote: | Oh, and that hole in the ozone layer, it's repairing itself and shrinking. |
...thanks to the banning of CFC's 20 years ago.
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