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PostMon Jun 04, 2007 6:28 am 
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Griffin's comments were perfectly reasonable and sensible ....... compared to the readers' "comments" responding to the article. Man, those were frightening.        eek.gif

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PostMon Jun 04, 2007 6:45 am 
putting it in perspective
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It is a different viewpoint and one that should provoke some thought.  We do have to consider the solutions to this manmade problem, how artificial will they be.  Will it be like barging salmon is to the Columbia River dams?  A perverse artificial solution to a manmade problem.  However, as head of NASA it was not too smart in terms of making your organization look good.  Your agency is now clearly talking out of both sides of its mouth.  NASA has alot of funding for its Earth Systems Science Program which observes climate change impacts and climate change itself and they are observing substantial impacts at every turn GISS.  I first worked with NASA on glacier projects in 1985 and continued up through 1998.  Some of the best ice sheet glaciologists such as Bindschadler, Thomas, Zwally, Hall work there.  It was interesting to note that several NASA researchers emphasized at glaciology meeting in 2003-2005 that they could not use the global warming term to explain their observations or in seeking funds for research, or their funding would be gone.  In 2006 suddenly the muzzle came off.  I was asked to participate in a project that had been proposed three years earlier, but not submitted because of the dreaded word, now it is acceptable.
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wow this has been spot on so far  rotf.gif  ykm.gif



oh btw :
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/07/national-park-glacier-warnings/

The National Park Service (NPS) quietly removed a visitor center sign saying the glaciers at Glacier National Park would disappear by 2020 due to climate change.

As it turns out, higher-than-average snowfall in recent years upended computer model projections from the early 2000s that NPS based its claim glaciers “will all be gone by the year 2020,” federal officials said.


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PostSat Jun 08, 2019 3:31 am 
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http://www.livescience.com/environment/070419_earth_timeline.html

Timeline: The Frightening Future of Earth

By Andrea Thompson
and Ker Than
posted: 19 April 2007
08:32 am E.T.

Our planet's prospects for environmental stability are bleaker than ever with the approach of this year’s Earth Day, April 22. Global warming is widely accepted as a reality by scientists and even by previously doubtful government and industrial leaders. And according to a recent report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), there is a 90 percent likelihood that humans are contributing to the change.


The international panel of scientists predicts the global average temperature could increase by 2 to 11 degrees Fahrenheit by 2100 and that sea levels could rise by up to 2 feet.


Scientists have even speculated that a slight increase in Earth's rotation rate could result, along with other changes. Glaciers, already receding, will disappear. Epic floods will hit some areas while intense drought will strike others. Humans will face widespread water shortages. Famine and disease will increase. Earth’s landscape will transform radically, with a quarter of plants and animals at risk of extinction.
While putting specific dates on these traumatic potential events is challenging, this timeline paints the big picture and details Earth's future based on several recent studies and the longer scientific version of the IPCC report, which was made available to LiveScience.


2007
More of the world's population now lives in cities than in rural areas, changing patterns of land use. The world population surpasses 6.6 billion. (Peter Crane, Royal Botanic Gardens, UK, Science; UN World Urbanization Prospectus: The 2003 Revision; U.S. Census Bureau)


2008
Global oil production peaks sometime between 2008 and 2018, according to a model by one Swedish physicist. Others say this turning point, known as “Hubbert’s Peak,” won’t occur until after 2020. Once Hubbert’s Peak is reached, global oil production will begin an irreversible decline, possibly triggering a global recession, food shortages and conflict between nations over dwindling oil supplies. (doctoral dissertation of Frederik Robelius, University of Uppsala, Sweden; report by Robert Hirsch of the Science Applications International Corporation)

2020
Flash floods will very likely increase across all parts of Europe. (IPCC)
Less rainfall could reduce agriculture yields by up to 50 percent in some parts of the world. (IPCC)
World population will reach 7.6 billion people. (U.S. Census Bureau)

wow this has been spot on so far  rotf.gif  ykm.gif



oh btw :
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/07/national-park-glacier-warnings/

The National Park Service (NPS) quietly removed a visitor center sign saying the glaciers at Glacier National Park would disappear by 2020 due to climate change.

As it turns out, higher-than-average snowfall in recent years upended computer model projections from the early 2000s that NPS based its claim glaciers “will all be gone by the year 2020,” federal officials said.


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The science is settled!

Researchers will be closely monitoring the diarrhea rates for the next 10 years looking for that 5% increase.
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