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PostSun Mar 31, 2002 8:41 pm 
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The kind of day you describe Dante is the type of weather that I find a challenge in building a fire-admittedly I cheat with stuff like firepaste, but keeping a fire going in really wet, drizzly stuff, particularly if it's been wet for a while I've always figured is a backswood skill to be cultivated and refined.  I kind of pride myself on my firemaking ability-keeping in mind the rules, of course.

Well, we got it going and kept it going for a while despite the rain.  I'm sure I would have been more motivated in a real survival situation, but at some point the superior work/warmth ratio of my sleeping bag overwhelmed anything the fire had to offer wink.gif
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PostThu Apr 04, 2002 10:46 am 
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It's interesting to come back after a day or two and read people's thoughts-I don't know what the "idiot" defense is-people who are going to stupid stuff are going to be stupid and I don't think any amount of education solves that-I believe there are an element of people who resolve to break the 'rules' simply because they can and have an attitude that "I pay for this and I can do what I want to," and proceed to go about doing it.  

Also, established firepits are becoming garbage dumps--It's amazes me how many people don't know that cans and glass don't burn--but of course they do-refer to Paragraph 1.  

But for guys who are going to burn sensibly and soundly-there's nothing much more enjoyable.  And one time being able to get a fire going at worst saved me from an uncomfortable night and at best saved me from hypothermia when I unwittedly pitched a tent in a slight depression and got soaked, including my sleeping bag--definitely not a demonstration of wilderness acumen that.

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PostThu Apr 04, 2002 12:52 pm 
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NEVER have a campfire when backpacking.  Too much damage, waste, scarring, smell, trouble, etc.

Sometimes, car camping in a place that allows them I'll have a campfire maybe.

At or around timberline it should be illegal to ever have a fire.  You can waste hundreds of years of growth in a single evening.

ooops...guess I have feelings about this.  rolleyes.gif
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PostThu Apr 04, 2002 1:00 pm 
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Ebineezer, that shot came jest before the saddle on the PCT that goes down to deep lake.  Thems trees were fried too!  Some kind of flash burn confined to that area.  It was beatuiful....

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PostFri Apr 05, 2002 9:18 pm 
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With Dslayer and Waterman here on this one: I am able to start a fire when its been raining for days on end by searching the out the duff under the granite, too. Although I don't have fires all the time, occasional it's nice in the evening. One can have a fire and then disperse it when leaving or after its use. It all boils down to being responsible and leaving no trace of it, much like off-trail trekking. The problem is of course, those that build them in unsutible places like in the heather. As far as I know, above about 5,000 ft. fires are prohibited, I think? In the Olympics, I believe its 4,000 ft.

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PostSat Apr 06, 2002 12:00 am 
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Camping without a campfire is called Motel 6.  eek.gif

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PostSat Apr 06, 2002 7:40 am 
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Camping without a campfire is called Motel 6

My point exactly in reverse.  Go to most campgrounds in the middle of the summer on a nice day and at 2 in the afternoon you'll find people standing around poking at some smoky, smoldering thing.  75 degrees out and its the first thing some people want to do.  Make a fire!  So many things to do, and they want to just stand there playin with a fire.

Best fish I've ever ate were cooked over a camp fire while backpacking.  Having a fire in marginal weather can salvage a gloomy evening.  But I see no point in having one unless I NEED it.
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A fire can make a miserable day cheery.  Have you ever roasted marshmallows over a Whisperlite?  Just don't be like Tom Bodett "We'll  leave the campfire on for you".  Your fire might become everyone else's.  mad.gif  mad.gif  waah.gif  waah.gif
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PostTue Apr 09, 2002 10:02 am 
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I like them where it's applicable to do so.
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PostTue Apr 09, 2002 9:06 pm 
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I think I can speak for most of us when I say that camp fires make us feel whole!  I'm no different.  I just seem to be in more of a hurry normally than to feel comfortable creating a fire!  WIth the right people, at the right time, fires ROCK!

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How can you help but like a guy that says things like "two-shay-turtle" ?  agree.gif
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PostWed Apr 10, 2002 6:27 pm 
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Not to get off topic but where does "two-shay-turtle" come from.  Never heard that one before.  Is it from a cartoon?
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PostWed Apr 10, 2002 7:15 pm 
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Touche Turtle was on of my childhood friends favorite cartoons.  He was always saying Touche Turtle whenever we embarked on some suburban forest adventure.

http://members.aol.com/PaulEC1/HBHall2.html

http://www.roundst.demon.co.uk/sounds/touche.mp3

Might be a good hike them song??

Not having a tv when I was little, I'd usually go over and knock on his door early saturday morning biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

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PostFri Apr 12, 2002 7:01 am 
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You know you're getting a little long in the tooth when you have to explain Touche Turtle....I teach the novel and movie "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," and kids these days have never seen it.  I didn't think you go through life without at least seeing that flick...

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PostFri Apr 12, 2002 10:16 am 
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As far as Touche Turtle, you're not necessarily getting long in the tooth.  Some of us just had derpived childhoods.
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