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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
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Sun Sep 19, 2010 9:07 pm
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"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
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Schroder Member
Joined: 26 Oct 2007 Posts: 6721 | TRs | Pics Location: on the beach |
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 11:23 am
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You'll find it one of these days.
Have you found any maps better than Metsker's showing the trail? Here's what an old one of mine shows
It used to be a popular trail to take the kids at Camp Silverton on until they logged the lower slopes near the river in the late 1960's
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:49 pm
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No have not found a better map. But that Nels Bruseth does provide some incite as to why it is a loop type trail. Although i still take Mallardy section with a grain of salt. Looking at the Nels Bruseth sketch the lookout is positioned far north of the high point of Blackjack ridge. If indeed the was the true location of the look out why have such a long back door route? This is speculation on may part, i'm thinking it simply because of the Stilley and frequent flooding. It might have been simply a little used lightly maintained alternative route in case of flood. This might be why the Mallardy ridge trail is so difficult to find.
If this is the case the Black Jack ridge section might be more obvious sans the logged off area.
Interesting you mention it was popular to take the kids at camp Silverton up there. How did they cross the river?
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
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Sawyer Member
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 12:56 pm
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The trails not only access the lookouts, but also access the trees for the fire fighters.
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Schroder Member
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Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:20 pm
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There was an easy crossing to wade just upstream of Camp Silverton (pre-1980 flood). I don't remember much specifically about the trail though.
The Metskers map shows the Blackjack trail down to the river just opposite Sperry-Iversen mine. I poked around the mine a couple of years ago and found good trails above it (north) with ruins of several buildings - along that spur trail connecting with the Marten Creek trail on the same map.
The Lookouts book says the 40 ft tower was at Point 4519. There's nothing corresponding with that on any map I have. Majors says the lookout site was at the northwest end of Blackjack Ridge (Point 4289?).
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I'm sure Hulk saw this one too, from an old Mallardy Ridge report from way back in Ought Two, but maps are cool.
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
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Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:25 am
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Sawyer has a point....But would a fire access trail be built and maintained to the same standard as a look out access trail?
I'm more than curious how much remains of the trail on Black Jack ridge. 4031 looks like an easy route to get there, but it's not. It's horribly over grown, tried that road last weekend....gave up on the road and just walked through the forest. Might just ford the Stilly and bushwack up there. The safe fording window is probably gone this year.
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
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Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:57 pm
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Many trails were built in the 20's and 30's to get people and horses and equipment to fires, and to get supplies and people and horses to the lookouts. Examples: Barlow Point, Granite Mtn. They planned over 700 lookouts in Washington State alone.
Many trails were built in the 1880's and later to get to mines. Examples are Gothic and Glacier Basins, Marten Creek.
Occasionally, trails were purposely built to recreational places. Mt Dickerman is one example. This isn't too common though. Most of our "recreational" trails were not built for that purpose, until the last few decades.
Many boot-beaten paths have become recreational trails to lakes, viewpoints, hunting areas, berry picking areas, and peaks. Examples include Mason Lake.
We have a great legacy of trails mostly due to fire fighting!
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crock Member
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Schroder wrote: | The Lookouts book says the 40 ft tower was at Point 4519. There's nothing corresponding with that on any map I have. Majors says the lookout site was at the northwest end of Blackjack Ridge (Point 4289?). |
I know this is an old thread... I'm interested in finding the old Mallardy Ridge Trail and so came across this thread.
Point 4519 shows up on the 1957 USGS 1:62,500 Silverton map. https://livingatlas.arcgis.com/topoexplorer/index.html It is a mile southwest of Marble Peak and 1 mile southeast of Point 4289.
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I have looked for it but never found it, not sure if it is off the road terminus or prior to it?
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
Go placidly amid the noise and waste, and remember what comfort there may be in owning a piece thereof.
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Sat Nov 07, 2020 8:24 pm
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You had me at Old.
Keep Calm and Carry On?
Heck No.
Stay Excited and Get Outside!
Keep Calm and Carry On?
Heck No.
Stay Excited and Get Outside!
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Between every two pines is a doorway to the new world. - John Muir
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I have a stash of old Metsker maps and over the years found them very helpful in finding now-abandoned trails. Those of Whatcom, Skagit, Snohomish counties and several on the east side are gems.
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crock Member
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Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:00 pm
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I hiked Mallardy Ridge yesterday starting from where Road 4032 crosses from one side of the ridge to the other side (spot elevation of 3054'). I followed Mallardy Ridge southeast for about two miles to point 4080+ just before the high point on Mallardy Ridge at 4120+. The only sign I saw of a trail were two old blazes.
There were a few 15' to 20' long places that I can imagine some people interpreting as a bit of old trail tread, but I don't think they were. The two miles took two and a quarters hours - it is not fast going.
From point 4080+, I headed south down to meadows at 3480' and then took the Walt Bailey Trail past Cutthroat Lakes up to Bald Mountain.
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