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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1963 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
I've been testing some new gear lately and just spent a night on this pad. For years I've eschewed full length sleeping pads (except snow) because of the bulk and weight. I decided to try this X-frame as I was thinking of cutting up a couple of closed cell foam pads using the same concept when I ran across this product. After one night, I think I'm going to fit it into my kit. I've been sleeping on a minimal 4.5 oz half length pad for some time now, and depending on the underlying surface, my hips sometimes end up sore, as I have 3 positions.....back and sides (for backpacking, you with the naughty mind). Under my legs and feet I usually put what minimal pack I have left...in other words, practically nothing.
Now I'm thinking that for 10.1 ozs and very small size packed (coke can), I may bite the bullet and use this, especially since I paid a hundred bucks for it. It comes with a bulb used to inflate, as the literature says breath alone can inflate the pad up to about 2 psi, but attaching the bulb you can go up to 4 to 5 psi. What this means is a 200+ lb dude can sleep on his side and not bottom out the pad on the hips or shoulders. Now I'm not 200 lbs but I spent the night on this cushy full length pad and it lives up to the hype. Cush where you need it, not where you don't. Now I'm gonna have to get one for my daughter.
note: testing 4 oz bivy bag under the pad that uses breathable cuben fiber....initial impression is promising!
bivy and pad
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hermes Member
Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 449 | TRs | Pics
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hermes
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:49 am
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Looks promising - is it symmetric head-to-toe?
BREATHABLE CUBEN!!!! Where did you get that????
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Allison Feckless Swooner
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 12287 | TRs | Pics Location: putting on my Nikes before the comet comes |
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Allison
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:52 am
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I have seen this at the OR show and am intrigued. Please keep us posted on your findings.
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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1963 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
hermes wrote: | Looks promising - is it symmetric head-to-toe?
BREATHABLE CUBEN!!!! Where did you get that???? |
check the link, the pattern is body mapped to provide support where you need it. As for the cuben, it's a prototype, you will probably see some products made out of this by summer.
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 7113 | TRs | Pics Location: Arlington |
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 1:40 pm
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Interesting.
Problem is i have tried 3\4 length pads, just don't work for me, my legs freeze.
I'm guessing that thing is not an insulated inflatable. Be nice to see an insulated version as not to have cold spots from the pad in colder weather.
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williswall poser
Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 1963 | TRs | Pics Location: Redmond |
Hulksmash wrote: | Interesting.
Problem is i have tried 3\4 length pads, just don't work for me, my legs freeze.
I'm guessing that thing is not an insulated inflatable. Be nice to see an insulated version as not to have cold spots from the pad in colder weather. |
This is not a 3/4 pad, it's full length. The pad is capable of accepting the company's argon gas cannisters, supposedly providing enough insulation for winter camping. Otherwise, you are right...it is not an insulated inflatable. I had a some cold spots underneath with 36 degree temperatures. I plan on using this as a summer pad.
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Dean (aka CascadeHiker)
Joined: 02 Mar 2002 Posts: 1967 | TRs | Pics Location: ex Kennewick, Wa & Lehi Utah |
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:47 pm
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Hmmmm, that might be a good choice for the John Muir trail hike I have planned this next summer. Yes, keep us posted
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Slugman It’s a Slugfest!
Joined: 27 Mar 2003 Posts: 16874 | TRs | Pics
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Slugman
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:50 pm
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I like the concept, put pad exactly where it is needed, and no where else.
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Dane Other
Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 2466 | TRs | Pics Location: Seattle |
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:06 pm
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Argon insulation? That's sexy
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Ive been on the ultra light freak side, and I do hike light. With that said, if I have to resort to a pad like that, I think Ill stop over-nighting it!
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Todd Ler Member
Joined: 10 Feb 2010 Posts: 129 | TRs | Pics
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:37 pm
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Tom Admin
Joined: 15 Dec 2001 Posts: 17835 | TRs | Pics
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Tom
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:51 pm
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Backpacker Joe wrote: | Ive been on the ultra light freak side, and I do hike light. |
Ultra light freak? When did you dump that boat anchor of a camera and lenses Pinocchio?
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Tom wrote: | Backpacker Joe wrote: | Ive been on the ultra light freak side, and I do hike light. |
Ultra light freak? When did you dump that boat anchor of a camera and lenses Pinocchio? |
My pack weighs around 17 pounds for over night. The camera hangs on my chest. So there, ya wise guy.
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Allison Feckless Swooner
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 12287 | TRs | Pics Location: putting on my Nikes before the comet comes |
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Allison
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Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:03 pm
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I think Joe has long established that he does not consider anything pack weight unless it is INSIDE the pack.
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Backpacker Joe Blind Hiker
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 23956 | TRs | Pics Location: Cle Elum |
Allison wrote: | I think Joe has long established that he does not consider anything pack weight unless it is INSIDE the pack. |
Thank you. When I take off my pack the camera isnt there! So there!
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