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Gimpilator infinity/21M
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1684 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
Redwic and I attempted Index today by the west ridge route. The forecast predicted 40% chance of showers before noon, becoming partly sunny. WRONG! Constant drizzle, whiteout, and sloppy snow slowed our progress even though we got an early start. We timed out when we reached the saddle just northeast of Point 5212.
Sucktacular bushwhacking video:
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Magellan Brutally Handsome
Joined: 26 Jul 2006 Posts: 13116 | TRs | Pics Location: Inexorable descent |
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:22 pm
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Brutal.
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veronika Member
Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 3015 | TRs | Pics Location: On the road |
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veronika
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:29 pm
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Looks like our trip and wonderful forecast as well!
Take risks not to escape life, but to prevent life from escaping
I may not have anyone rocking my world right now but, I don't have anyone messing it up either.
Take risks not to escape life, but to prevent life from escaping
I may not have anyone rocking my world right now but, I don't have anyone messing it up either.
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Eric Peak Geek
Joined: 21 Oct 2002 Posts: 2062 | TRs | Pics Location: In Travel Status |
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Eric
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:34 pm
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Doh. Yeah, the weather was worse than forecasted today and far worse than they claimed a couple of days ago. I was regretting telling Redwic yesterday that you guys should still do Index. I'm sure that under dry conditions you would have gotten it with no problem.
That route definitely has some brush on the upper road and above the road. That young evergreen type brush is ten times worse when it is wet. If you guys got above 5000' then you were done with the hardest part too so too bad that you didn't make the top. But it just means you can visit the mtn again.
The traverse looks cool athough the view looking back at it from Index makes it appear rather challenging in spots.
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Redwic Unlisted Free Agent
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:34 pm
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That road bushwhack was very annoying... and time-consuming.
Will somebody please bring a machete?
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
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puzzlr Mid Fork Rocks
Joined: 13 Feb 2007 Posts: 7216 | TRs | Pics Location: Stuck in the middle |
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:41 pm
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That's the best bushwhacking video I've seen -- I'm always so preoccupied with the job at hand I forget about the camera until I'm through with it. I'm impressed you made it as far as you did -- if you got to that saddle you did most of the hard work, with just the rewarding part ahead of you. You'll get it next time. Index really deserves a clear day.
Index summit pano
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Tom_Sjolseth Born Yesterday
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 2652 | TRs | Pics Location: Right here. |
That's too bad you guys didn't make it, but good on you for getting out on the wet side in today's weather.
By any chance were you able to get any shots of Index at all? I'm just curious about how much snow is still up there.
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summithound Climbing Connoisseur
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 1766 | TRs | Pics Location: Everett, WA |
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:09 pm
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Thanks for the post Gimpilator. A buddy and I are considering giving it a shot next weekend. I've already attempted it twice; the highest I've reached is ~4,800'. At what elevation did you encounter continuous snow cover? Would you advise snowshoes?
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
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veronika Member
Joined: 25 Apr 2010 Posts: 3015 | TRs | Pics Location: On the road |
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veronika
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Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:29 pm
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summithound wrote: | Thanks for the post Gimpilator. A buddy and I are considering giving it a shot next weekend. I've already attempted it twice; the highest I've reached is ~4,800'. At what elevation did you encounter continuous snow cover? Would you advise snowshoes? |
Next weekend eh? I am interested in tagging along if it happens. PM me if it's a go! This has been on my list for a while.
Take risks not to escape life, but to prevent life from escaping
I may not have anyone rocking my world right now but, I don't have anyone messing it up either.
Take risks not to escape life, but to prevent life from escaping
I may not have anyone rocking my world right now but, I don't have anyone messing it up either.
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Josh Journey a.k.a Josh Lewis
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flatsqwerl Member
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Redwic Unlisted Free Agent
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:12 am
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summithound wrote: | Thanks for the post Gimpilator. A buddy and I are considering giving it a shot next weekend. I've already attempted it twice; the highest I've reached is ~4,800'. At what elevation did you encounter continuous snow cover? Would you advise snowshoes? |
Don't bring snowshoes. It would be a waste of weight and load.
Bring an ice axe. Microspikes and/or crampons highly recommended... my microspikes worked very well.
We encountered sporadic snow on the road above 3600', and continuous snow on the road, and everywhere higher, above 3700'.
The snow was mostly "Cascade concrete" until reaching the basin at ~4700' prior to the saddle... there it was surprisingly still unconsolidated. Those forest slopes are STEEP... I would not want to cross them during an in-between stage of snowmelt and tree/log wells... which looks like it will be here very soon.
We could have made the summit, but it would have required taking unnecessary risks. When we reached the basin at ~4700' elevation, the ridge and upper slopes were in near-whiteout conditions. We could not even see 100 yards ahead of us; the summit area never came into view. Also, we could have made the summit in daylight (and I use that term loosely based on the overcast clouds), but that would have required us to be descending steep sloppy snow near cliffs as lighting waned. Not good.
It's better to be safe than sorry, and I certainly did not want to be remembered as dying on Father's Day. My family would not like that.
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
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Gimpilator infinity/21M
Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1684 | TRs | Pics Location: Edmonds, WA |
I agree with Craig, snow shoes are not necessary. I believe the reason the snow became sloppy was because of all the rain. Neither of us took any pictures because of the bad visibility. I'm tempted to go back next weekend myself because I think after next weekend, the snow will melt out, and brush conditions on the traverse around Point 5212 will become unfavorable. To maximize your chance of success, I would suggest a car camp at the gate and starting no later than 5 am.
flatsqwerl wrote: | nice raingear! |
Actually it's funny you mention that. I own several rain coats and even had one with me, but when it's super wet I always prefer a poncho for breathability.
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beaudaddy Coast To Cascades
Joined: 25 Feb 2010 Posts: 401 | TRs | Pics Location: Tulalip, WA |
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:04 am
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Gimpilator wrote: | but when it's super wet I always prefer a poncho for breathability |
"The Poncholator"
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summithound Climbing Connoisseur
Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 1766 | TRs | Pics Location: Everett, WA |
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summithound
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Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:09 am
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Did you guys park at the closed gate on the Proctor Creek Road and bike to the trailhead? I heard you mention in your video that your intent was to follow the Persis route on the descent ...
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
Pain is just weakness leaving the body.
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