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cairn builder
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cascadeclimber
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Not with Google. Anything like this should be opt-in only and Google only does opt-out, if there is any sort of 'opt' available.
(donning my foil hat)...IMO, Google is well on the way to becoming SkyNet. They collect far too much personally identifiable information collected for my comfort. I even switch my default search engine to duckduckgo.
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RichP
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If there is money to be made, Google would sell its soul as well as yours.
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Seventy2002
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Put the sensors on every cell phone tower.
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lostintheforest
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I would share that data if I had confidence that it would only be used for weather forecasting purposes. I don't trust Google to not expand the use of my data at some point if they think they can make money off it.
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coldrain108
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The real tin foil hat question is:
Do you have a choice?
Short of abandoning your smart phone entirely.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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| coldrain108 wrote: | | The real tin foil hat question is:
Do you have a choice?
Short of abandoning your smart phone entirely. |
Somewhat, but it ain't easy; read "Dragnet Nation."
First your legs go, then you lose your reflexes, then you lose your friends. Willy Pep
First your legs go, then you lose your reflexes, then you lose your friends. Willy Pep
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Dutch student sells online soul at auction for €350
| Quote: | | There are those who so loathe to have their personal data milked for profit (or other, potentially more sinister purposes, such as identity theft or surveillance) that they up and divorce Google.
Many privacy-minded people likewise eschew Facebook.
Then, there's Shawn Buckles: the kind of guy who puts his personal data up for auction to the highest bidder.
Buckles, a Dutch student and artist, had his data soul up for sale for a few weeks, during which time he received 53 bids, according to Wired.
On 12 April, the auction ended, with The Next Web (TNW) having placed the winning bid of €350 ($483, £287).
Specifically, he sold the following buckets of personal data:
His "personal profile"
Location records
Train travel records
Personal calendar
Email conversations
Online conversations
Social media conversations
Consumer preferences
Browser history
His "thoughts"
The sale was meant to prove a point about loss of privacy in the age of big data. |
falling leaves / hide the path / so quietly
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falling leaves / hide the path / so quietly
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Redwic
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| coldrain108 wrote: | | Short of abandoning your smart phone entirely. |
I don't have one (yet). Perhaps I am still safe. 
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
60 pounds lighter but not 60 points brighter.
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cairn builder
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What sinister misuses are there in knowing the barometric pressure where peoples' phones are?
I would opt in.
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moonspots
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| coldrain108 wrote: | | The real tin foil hat question is:
Do you have a choice?
Short of abandoning your smart phone entirely. |
Or get a Blackphone when they become available in this country....for $629!
"Out, OUT you demons of Stupidity"! - St Dogbert, patron Saint of Technology
"Out, OUT you demons of Stupidity"! - St Dogbert, patron Saint of Technology
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lostintheforest
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| cairn builder wrote: | | What sinister misuses are there in knowing the barometric pressure where peoples' phones are?
I would opt in. |
Because you have to also share your location data in order for it to work. As long as that location data is never shared with any other data collection programs, there is no misuse. Given that Google and it's brethren in the online world have made it their mission to make money off their customers data, I don't trust that my data won't get shared.
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cairn builder
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By they already have the location data from your phone in all likelihood. This would just turn it into something useful to the public, improved weather forecasts especially for short term events like storms and even tornados in the Midwest.
To be clear I don't think the idea has wings although I'd support it personally. It makes a great window into the public's evolving sense of privacy though, so a good discussion.
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