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PostTue May 13, 2014 6:29 pm 
Glenn Greenwald says NSA bugs tech hardware en route to global customers. Routers and servers implanted with beacons by NSA, says journalist who broke Edward Snowden story.
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American journalist Glenn Greenwald is accusing the U.S. National Security Agency of breaking into tech hardware to install surveillance bugs before the products are shipped to unsuspecting global customers, in a new book about the NSA's mass surveillance practices. Greenwald, who broke the story of intelligence whistleblower Edward Snowden, sat down with CBC's chief correspondent Peter Mansbridge to discuss previously unseen documents in an interview airing Tuesday night on The National. Greenwald's new book, No Place to Hide: Edward Snowden, the NSA and the U.S. Surveillance State, comes out on Tuesday. The NSA practice is called supply-chain interdiction, in which the agency intercepts U.S.-made products such as routers and servers manufactured by companies such as Cisco. The hardware is physically implanted with beacons before being factory repackaged and shipped to unaware consumers around the world.

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PostWed May 14, 2014 9:59 am 
hiker1 wrote:
The NSA practice is called supply-chain interdiction, in which the agency intercepts U.S.-made products such as routers and servers manufactured by companies such as Cisco. The hardware is physically implanted with beacons before being factory repackaged and shipped to unaware consumers around the world.
Does this mean that shipments of routers or servers from US Suppliers are somehow seized in shipment (and if so, how do they pull that off?) then one-at-a-time altered to add beacons, then put back into shipment as if it had come from the original shipper without incident? Given the massive amount of routers/servers presumably sent this sure seems like an enormous undertaking. If this wasn't coming from a reputable journalist, I'd chalk this off to conspiracy theorists doing their usual thing.

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PostWed May 14, 2014 10:18 am 
hiker1 wrote:
the agency intercepts U.S.-made products
so that means none?

Since I have no expectations of forgiveness, I don't do it in the first place. That loop hole needs to be closed to everyone.
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PostWed May 14, 2014 1:09 pm 
Navy salad wrote:
Does this mean that shipments of routers or servers from US Suppliers are somehow seized in shipment (and if so, how do they pull that off?) then one-at-a-time altered to add beacons, then put back into shipment as if it had come from the original shipper without incident? Given the massive amount of routers/servers presumably sent this sure seems like an enormous undertaking. If this wasn't coming from a reputable journalist, I'd chalk this off to conspiracy theorists doing their usual thing.
Perhaps you did not read the full article, which includes a photo of what you say is unlikely to happen. Remember, the NSA has endless resources.

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PostMon May 19, 2014 1:12 pm 
Cisco CEO lashes out at NSA, tells Obama to stop bugging IT hardware
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Cisco Systems Inc's chief executive officer has written a letter to U.S. President Barack Obama urging him to curtail government surveillance after evidence circulated showing the U.S. National Security Agency had intercepted Cisco equipment, a company spokesman said on Sunday.​ In a letter dated May 15, John Chambers, chief executive officer and chairman of the networking equipment giant, warned of an erosion of confidence in the U.S. technology industry and called for new "standards of conduct" in how the NSA conducts its surveillance. "We simply cannot operate this way, our customers trust us to be able to deliver to their doorsteps products that meet the highest standards of integrity and security," Chambers said in the letter. The letter follows the circulation of pictures on the Internet showing NSA staff opening boxes of Cisco gear, the Financial Times reported on Sunday. "There have been allegations that the NSA has intercepted IT equipment in transit from manufacturers to customers to help monitor and gain information on surveillance targets," the paper wrote. The allegations stem from early reporting from Guardian journalist Glenn Greenwald, who has written about a number of NSA documents that were provided by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden. In the letter, Chambers states that "if these allegations are true, these actions will undermine confidence in our industry and in the ability of technology companies to deliver products globally." In a separate blog post on Cisco's site dated May 13, the company's general counsel, Mark Chandler, wrote that "...we ought to be able to count on the government to ... not interfere with the lawful delivery of our products in the form in which we have manufactured them."

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PostMon May 19, 2014 1:25 pm 
I am shocked, shocked.

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