[MtnGoat]

US entry policy has infected more people than cable news.

[Backpacker Joe]

Ebola in New York city! Nothing to worry about. With Alfred E. Newman governing this nation there is everything to worry about!

[boot up]

[MtnGoat]

New Jersey and New York are implementing new travel restrictions for incoming passengers, based at least in part upon the locations which the arrivals have visited. I'm sure this will cause the secrecy and evasions we've been warned about, and I've also heard the world economy could be put at risk by other pundits, but it's nice to see basic measures beyond the idiotic temperature checks already paraded as 'control', but import case #2 passed right through. Someone in these two states is at least taking reducing risks from importing possibly infected people, seriously.

[joker]

Heard today on the radio that since forced quarantines of folks returning from stricken countries, regardless of whether or not they have any symptoms (and thus whether or not they might be contagious), has reduced the number of volunteers - 17% decline thus far per USAID. See here.

[cairn builder]

All the insane fear and paranoia are making the world more dangerous. Right wing ideology says we can't tax or regulate our masters and owners, the 1%, because they'll just go move somewhere else with lower taxes. You'd think these same people would take their same one thought and apply it here. If you scapegoat and punish volunteers, they won't volunteer. A victory for stupid, while the death toll mounts in Africa.

[Malachai Constant]

The Ebola scare was just for the election, notice how it has almost disappeared from the news?

[joker]

Maybe the Koch Brothers (TM) imported Mr. Duncan. A work colleague from the UK who is visiting this week tells me that the "scare" is very much still alive in Europe.

[AR]

Ebola is way too hot to last long. It's a lame joke compared to HIV that knows to be quiet for a few years and spread itself through millions in one year alone. I'll also note that the people that are too worried about treating the disease here are a bunch of self-absorbed pussies.

[Bedivere]

[MtnGoat]

There's little reason to accept that Ebola is 'under control' until the African outbreak is resolved, and wether or not it's still in the news is quite a bit less than relevant to the desirablility of containing it there rather than allowing additional cases to show up here. The volunteers going there do not have a right to return and carelessly risk innocent citizens lives here. Their choice to volunteer should necessarily include the inconvenience of following standard practices to protect lives here, as well. As for 'making the world more dangerous', fear and well justified concern (paranoia lol, to some) is a perfectly reasonable response to the screwups we've seen so far in the Federal medical handling of this issue, and the growing inability to hide that our bloated system of ineptocracy operates for it's own gain at the expense of it's host. One doesn't even need to claim these attributes are due to hostility to citizens, though some definitely are, when most of them are simply the natural outgrowth of a system which is past a million light years past it's information and decisionmaking capabilities and run by people who need not worry about any actual consequences or liability.

[Frosty]

The Cuban practice was to state up front that infected healthcare workers cannot return home for treatment, hence the transfer of the infected Cuban volunteer to Europe for treatment there.

[joker]

[MtnGoat]

So long as the returnees have full legal and fiscal liability (including all infections resulting from anyone they infect) for their actions, perhaps a compromise can be struck. The full stop does not necessitate leaving the back door open here. That's a false choice. Not a single person I'm aware of is arguing it's not important to deal with it there. The question is protecting the rest of us from those who return. On that front, I would be surprised if there were not things taking place on the liability front as legal outfits representing volunteer services attempt to assess the risk. Anyone returning and anyone aiding them needs to remain fully liable, else the absent incentives to proper containment will result in very poor decisionmaking.

[cartman]