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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:12 am 
Late summer is time for my annual backpacking and day hiking trip to Central Idaho. Last year Sadie's Driver accompanied me. This year Quark came along. Just more of the same. Lakes near or above 10,000', lots of granite, flowers, few people, very few bugs, warm days, cool nights. Yawn. The Sawtooths are great and I am now equally pleased with the White Clouds. I have way to much to do to get my Idaho reports up so I will just post parts as I get to them. First is day one of the Big Boulder Lakes trip. Day One Since my brother moved to Sun Valley I have made a late summer pilgrimage to visit and to hike and backpack this terrific area. This was my fourth trip. This time Kim accompanied me and we drove. I flew in on the tree earlier visits. It's a long day of driving but not so bad with two people trading off. We headed out at 6:30 am on Saturday and arrived 680 miles later and one time zone change at 6:45 pm MDT in Sun Valley. My house is at 220' above sea level and my brother's is at 5800'. The Sawtooth and White Cloud Mountains soar much higher. We spent Sunday just getting a little acclimatized.
Itty Bitty Outback
Itty Bitty Outback
Since Kim had never hiked in Idaho I planned another grand tour of the Sawtooths. Turns out a fire broke out the day before and half the route was closed and being evacuated. Time for a change of plans. A quick scan of reports on the Internet led to a backup idea. It required an extra 60 miles driving each way but looked really good. We set out early on Monday morning heading north over Galena Summit and into the Salmon River Valley.
Historical Marker
Historical Marker
Salmon Rvr & Sawtooths
Salmon Rvr & Sawtooths
We stopped at the Stanley Ranger Station for last minute fire info and discovered the Sawtooth fire was out and the route was open. After a quick huddle we chose to use our back up plan in the White Cloud Mountains. We drove east still on Highway 75 along the growing Salmon River. We stopped where smoke seemed to be coming from the hillside along the road. In fact, it was steam from Sunbean hot springs. The water was very hot. A family was down in a pool along the Salmon River where the hot water flowed.
Road Side Steam
Road Side Steam
Sunbeam Hot Springs
Sunbeam Hot Springs
Back on route we reached the East Fork Salmon River Road and turned south. My old hiking book talked about 5 miles of pavement. Not any more. It is now paved for 15 miles with farms up the valley. Very craggy terrrain with sagebrush and views to the peaks above. One mile of dirt led to a turnoff and 4 1/2 more miles of dirt to the trailhead near Livingston Mill. This is one of the more popular trailheads in the White Clouds and even on a Monday morning there were 4 or 5 cars there. The trail starts at 7200' which is higher than most of the crest of the Cascade Mountains in Washington.
Livingston Mill Trailhead
Livingston Mill Trailhead
Start Of Trail
Start Of Trail
Grassy Slope
Grassy Slope
New Ravine
New Ravine
It was already warming at 9:30 am and we were soon in shorts and short sleeves. The trail soon crosses a creek on a single log. Every crossing was bridged and nearly every one had two side by side logs. The first two miles are open to motorcycles. At that point the trail splits. Left goes up to Frog Lake and the Boulder Chain Lakes. Right immediately crosses the creek and heads up to Walker, Island, and Big Boulder Lakes.
Big Boulder Creek
Big Boulder Creek
Peak Beyond Meadow
Peak Beyond Meadow
Creek Crossing
Creek Crossing
Closer To Peaks
Closer To Peaks
Cooling Shade
Cooling Shade
Improving Peak Views
Improving Peak Views
The route is never very steep. It climbs through forest and open fields of sagebrush dotted with flowers. We were a little surprised to see a lot of flowers in late August. We were passed by one group of day hikers heading up. A little later we met another couple coming down who backpacked to Walker Lake and the upper lakes. My books talked about crossing Quicksand Meadow. We reached a sign for a descent to the meadow but the main trail now continues on a traverse above the meadow and creek. This trail looked to be very new.
Waterfall
Waterfall
Granite Peaks
Granite Peaks
With the elevation and heat we were wilting on the trail. A little cool breeze really helped. Where the new and old trails met the route was again near the creek in a more sub alpine area. Big granite rocks dotted the ground with grass and smaller trees. we soon reached the intersecton. Straight ahead a mile to Island Lake or right to Walker. After a break we headed on to Walker. The trail is steeper and rockier here but soon we were cresting a ridge and entering the basin. We wandered quite a way through meadows and along the outlet stream before reaching the lake.
Outlet Creek Meadow
Outlet Creek Meadow
Walker Lake
Walker Lake
Setting Sun On Lake
Setting Sun On Lake
Walker Lake sits at the end of a forested basin at 9239'. We were almost as high as Mt. Stuart in the Cascades but still in forest. Quite a change from what we are used to. The earlier backpacking couple we met suggested the campsite at the far end of the lake. We were about out of gas as we hiked past several nice sites along the lake. We chose a big site near the inlet stream. A little later another group came in and continued past the inlet to a nice site across the lake from us. We set up the tent, hung our food, had dinner, and were ready to call it a day. For the day we hiked about 8 miles with 2200' of gain. Day Two This was the day we were looking forward to. After a day getting up to Walker we would now head up to the lakes of the upper basin. The info we had told of a boot path than followed the inlet up to a meadow than turned left to climb to a saddle gateway to the upper basin. We found cairns near our campsite and followed them up to the right of the creek. The path was pretty easy to follow to the large meadow. Lots of flowers especially in the meadow. At a final cairn the route split. right headed up to Sheep and Slide Lakes and left quickly disappeared. We saw the rock wall above Walker Lake and a ridge heading down towards the meadow. We headed cross country in that direction.
Reflection In Lake
Reflection In Lake
Morning Light
Morning Light
Granite Peak Above
Granite Peak Above
Indian Paintbrush
Indian Paintbrush
Beautiful Purple Flower
Beautiful Purple Flower
Kim At Work
Kim At Work
Bright Red Paintbrush
Bright Red Paintbrush
White Flowers
White Flowers
Saddle Is In Sight
Saddle Is In Sight
Buttercup Like Flower
Buttercup Like Flower
Tilted Rock Peak
Tilted Rock Peak
There were far more flowers in the meadow area than we expected. Lots of purple aster everywhere on the whole route and especially here. We saw paintbrush, gentian, and many more as well. At times we found and lost the boot path but route finding was not difficult. At the base of the route up to the saddle the trail became very distinct. The route is most all on rock and some of it is loose. Still it is not a difficult scramble. In short order we crested the ridge just above the saddle.
Beautiful Granite
Beautiful Granite
Meadow & Sharp Peak
Meadow & Sharp Peak
End Of Basin
End Of Basin
Snag Art
Snag Art
Heading To Saddle
Heading To Saddle
High Above Meadow
High Above Meadow
Above Walker Lake
Above Walker Lake
White Peak In Sight
White Peak In Sight
Wow! What a view from there. Hook Lake is just below and the blazing white David O Lee Peak is right above it. An outstanding view. The pass is at 9900' and the view in all directions is terrific. We headed down to the lake and rounded it on the left side. Beyond the lake is a plateau of granite, grass, and some trees. Stunning beauty. Similar to the Enchantments of the Washington Cascades but 3,000' higher. We crossed the plateau and saw big Sapphire Lake just below us. We dropped down to the lake where we met two of the four members of the other group in the area.
Wow! DO Lee Peak
Wow! DO Lee Peak
Point 11,272
Point 11,272
Hook Lake & DO Lee
Hook Lake & DO Lee
White Cloud Peak 9
White Cloud Peak 9
Kim On Granite Plateau
Kim On Granite Plateau
Crossing Plateau
Crossing Plateau
Fishing Sapphire Lake
Fishing Sapphire Lake
The mom had come up with her dad when she was 9 years old. Now 40 years later she was returning with her son. They brought fishing rods to the upper lakes. We decided to start at the top and headed around Sapphire (9888') and on up to Cirque Lake (10,060'). Aiming for a low saddle brought us right up to Cirque. The lake has steep walls on the back side and only rock and a little grass at the front. From Cirque we could look down to Sapphire and Cove laid out below.
Sapphire Below
Sapphire Below
Kim At Cirque Lake
Kim At Cirque Lake
Heading To Moraine
Heading To Moraine
A nice gentle ramp with some grass leads up from Cirque towards the Kettles. The Kettles are small ponds high in the rocky moraine that are frozen most of the year. They were our next goal. The moraine is a huge pile of boulders and scree. I headed across the boulders looking for the Kettles. I found one Kettle and it was not very impressive. More like a small tarn in a pile of rocks. Another one had a little water but was mostly still just a pile of snow.
In The Moraine
In The Moraine
Search Finds One Kettle
Search Finds One Kettle
Looks Like Cracks
Looks Like Cracks
I headed back to find Kim and she was engrossed in the rocks. Seems they all look like petrified wood. More like a whole petrified forest at 10,300'. Neat rocks at the very least. Right above us was the white slope of David O Lee Peak. The white color is unlike anything I have ever seen in the mountains. Distinctive and very beautiful. Although we were over 10,000' very little snow survives this late in the summer. We then headed back down the arm to Cirque Lake.
Exit Via Snow Finger
Exit Via Snow Finger
Barren Cirque Lake
Barren Cirque Lake
Sapphire From Cirque
Sapphire From Cirque
From Cirque we took a more direct route back to Sapphire Lake. It took us over to the creek between Cirque and Sapphire. Well not all the way between. Cirque has no direct outlet. The creek pops out of the rocky hillside between the lakes. More flowers here including a very strange one. Photos will be below. We rounded Sapphire and headed towards Cove Lake some 46' lower. At the Sapphire outlet we decided to cross and ascend a narrow ridge to more lakes. We hiked up grass and boulders then some slabs to the ridge top. Near the high point we stopped. For the past hour we had seen smoke heading our way. Now it was here in a big way. The sky was brown instead of blue land Kim was having some breathing problems. Not serious but the smoke was getting thicker by the minute.
Strange Plant
Strange Plant
Creek Emerges
Creek Emerges
Smoke Blows In
Smoke Blows In
We chose to head back down. We had seen plenty of big high elevation lakes this day. Back at Sapphire we did choose to drop down to have a look at Cove Lake. A little cross country and we rose back to Hook Lake and soon the saddle to exit the upper basin. The boot path down was a little tougher with the loose rock at first but we were soon back at the meadow. Again we lost the trail but reached the trail split at the end of the meadow and followed the route right back to camp.
Creek Into Cove Lake
Creek Into Cove Lake
Slabs Near Camp
Slabs Near Camp
It was a terrific day of high country roaming. The lakes were gorgeous and the granite was spellbinding. Add in the numerous 11,000' peaks all around and it was a day to remember. The smoke began to dissipate in the evening and was mostly gone in the morning. Day 3 We awoke to very little smoke. We brought enough food for four days but decided three was enough. We packed up and headed back down. One more day trip to a new area sounded better than another day in the basin. With lighter packs and almost all down hill ahead we left Walker Lake. As always the trail down seemed much longer than up. It was another warm day but our early start helped with the heat. We were able to take some more time to enjoy the views out along the trail. The different colored rock is really amazing.
Walker Camp
Walker Camp
Smoke Is Gone
Smoke Is Gone
In Lake Basin
In Lake Basin
Reflection
Reflection
Interesting Rock
Interesting Rock
New Trail
New Trail
The last two miles we met a number of groups heading up. I was surprised to see half a dozen groups going in on a Wednesday morning. Several groups were headed towards the Boulder Chain Lakes. One group had hiking gear but chose to do the lower trail on motorcycles. One gentleman even had on a University of Washington shirt on. I mentioned Huskies and he thought I was talking about his Lab dog.
More Flowers
More Flowers
It was down right hot when we saw Livingston Mill and slogged the last half mile through sagebrush. There were now 11 cars in the lot. Our timing was impeccable. We had only the one group in the basin for our stay. On the drive back to Highway 75 we had a group of big horn sheep run across the road in front of us. I rolled down the window and Kim took a photo while they posed. Other than squirrels they were the only animals we saw.
Livingston Mill
Livingston Mill
Trailhead Sign
Trailhead Sign
We drove back to Stanley and started looking for a campgrounds. Redfish Lake has many but they were mobbed with RVs and kids running all around. Great for many but we wanted a little more peace and quiet. The Sunny Gulch CG provided both. We were far from the highway and behind the site was a short trail down to the Salmon River. Very nice. We went back into Stanley for a real dinner after a few nights of dehydrated and it was a real improvement.
Salmon River
Salmon River
We packed up for a day hike. In the morning we were off to see the western side of the White Clouds.

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:55 am 
Looking forward to it James.

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:56 am 
Clouds are so named because it's difficult to determine where the peaks end and the clouds begin. A very apt description for these gorgeous peaks, some blindingly white from their composition of limestone and granite. Cool stuff always happens - we met a local royal family of Ketchum on one of the trails we hiked; the father of our new trail freind was the first backcountry ski instructor in the area in 1937. He also named some of the local peaks in the Pioneer Mtns around Ketchum. It was pretty exciting to meet this gentleman. I feel sorta bad because I thought he was a bit of a jerk at first, but as we all know, once you give a person a chance and actually speak to them rather than judging them before you know them, they're not really jerks at all. He and his kids are the nicest folks, and we're extremely thrilled to have met them and heard their family story. Will post a link to the Ketchum backcountry ski history (Jim sent it to me) later, along with pics.

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 10:34 am 
Backpacker Joe wrote:
Looking forward to it James.
ditto.gif While in Eagle Cap, I talked to another couple at great length about the Sawtooths and White Cap area, and received a lot of beta from them for a future trip. Now I find all I had to do was fire Mr. K a pm? Sheesh! lol.gif

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 6:23 pm 
yes, very interested to read this one..... I'm waiting... impatiently

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 7:31 pm 
Great choice on the White Clouds. I drove out from Portland and hiked into the Upper Boulder Chain Lakes two summers ago. It was soo scenic and quiet. It made the long, long hike in and all of the vertical worth it. I actually just returned last night from the Bighorn Crags in the northern end of the Frank Church Wilderness. Stunning country! I'll post a report soon. Keith

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:08 pm 
At first I thought, "God what did I get myself into..." the E Fk Salmon Rv Rd winds through what looks like Central Washington - canyons, sagebrush....I thought how dumb I was to agree to do a deserty hike in August. But no fear, it's alpine enough....odd mixture of highland sagebrush, then scrubby forest. We actually got quite cold in the upper basin of the Lakes. I smelled smoke as we got to camp the first night; and by the 2nd day in the upper basin, we knew a forest fire or two was somewhere around - the basin got so smoky we had to cut our visit there a bit short. Gorgeous place. Good road to get to the trailhead, trail is in great condition, logs placed at all creek crossings, and excellently maintained trail (including a brand new re-route around Quicksand Meadows) Pics of Big Boulder Lakes
Herding sheep
Herding sheep
Critters along the E Fk Salmon Rv Rd
Critters along the E Fk Salmon Rv Rd
Along E Fk Salmon River road to Livingston Mill
Along E Fk Salmon River road to Livingston Mill
Big Boulder Lakes basin, David O Lee on the left, unk on the right
Big Boulder Lakes basin, David O Lee on the left, unk on the right
Jim at Cirque Lk
Jim at Cirque Lk
Swoopy rock mountain, Big Boulder trail
Swoopy rock mountain, Big Boulder trail
A hiker at Cirque Lake, Big Boulder Lakes, David O Lee Pk on the left
A hiker at Cirque Lake, Big Boulder Lakes, David O Lee Pk on the left
Ascending the moraine
Ascending the moraine
King of the Moraine, Big Boulder Lakes, ID_David O Lee Pk
King of the Moraine, Big Boulder Lakes, ID_David O Lee Pk
Lawrence of Albania at Big Boulder Lakes moraine
Lawrence of Albania at Big Boulder Lakes moraine
Ohnoitshimagain
Ohnoitshimagain
Stalking David O Lee Pk
Stalking David O Lee Pk
Sapphire and Cove Lakes, Big Boulder Lakes
Sapphire and Cove Lakes, Big Boulder Lakes
Lawrence of Albania at Big Boulder Lakes moraine
Lawrence of Albania at Big Boulder Lakes moraine
A hiker at Cirque Lake, Big Boulder Lakes, David O Lee Pk on the left
A hiker at Cirque Lake, Big Boulder Lakes, David O Lee Pk on the left

"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate." Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:10 pm 
Pics of Born Lakes trail Dayhike. We stayed at Sunny Gulch car campground after rejecting the dismal camping choices at Redfish Lake. Sunny Gulch is a wonderful camping spot, access to the Salmon River behind the campground. After a chicken fried steak and porkchop dinner at a restaurant in Stanley, we turned in, then dayhiked to Born Lakes. This valley burned in 2005. The forest eerily charred, but certainly very beautiful in this stage of life. We enjoyed it immensely. The trail is well maintained and popular. 7ish miles RT gets you to Born Lakes. a steep descent into Ants Basin. Us Washingtonians couldn't stand the thought of a basin not riddled with strips of trails going all over the place. This basin is in excellent condition. Only one trail clearly mars it's face. There are likely more trails here and there, but hikers have kept it in good condition.
A hiker enjoys Born Lake
A hiker enjoys Born Lake
Ant Basin, shadows and light
Ant Basin, shadows and light
Born Lakes trail
Born Lakes trail
Colorful mountains, Born Lakes trail
Colorful mountains, Born Lakes trail
Looking toward Born Lakes from the Pass above Ant Basin
Looking toward Born Lakes from the Pass above Ant Basin
Ants Basin and David O. Lee Peak, White Clouds Range, Idaho
Ants Basin and David O. Lee Peak, White Clouds Range, Idaho
Herding sheep
Herding sheep

"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate." Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:17 pm 
Here are some shots of the Upper Boulder Chain Lakes...if you ever make it out that way again...
Upper Boulder Chain Lakes
Upper Boulder Chain Lakes
Henry taking in the view
Henry taking in the view
Frog Lake
Frog Lake

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PostMon Aug 25, 2008 9:23 pm 
Would've been great to see all the lakes in the upper basin, but the smoke - it was so thick that at one time I coughed and choked a bit. I got claustrophobic and a little freaked (I'm a fresh air fiend, and was worried that I"d never catch my breath). Of course this only means a return trip is in order. Such a gorgeous place. You know if what I saw at The Kettles is petrified wood? Sure looks like it - limestone covered in dacite flow, then exposed by glacier action - could be, I suppose.....

"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate." Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
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PostTue Aug 26, 2008 12:06 am 
Way to go guys, I've been waiting for this trip for a long time. Hey Jim, your going to have to start getting a hold of me on these Idaho trips. Nice shots as usual Quark. up.gif

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PostTue Aug 26, 2008 7:30 am 
oh my one of my fav places. I grew up in that area. Love it! good stuff!

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PostTue Aug 26, 2008 9:57 am 
So Tazz, d'you know anything about petrified wood up there? Know anyone who knows? The lady at the Stanley ranger station said that though petrified wood and fossils are in other areas of ID and MT, she didn't think anything was at Big Boulder Lakes; but dang, that stuff sure looks like wood. I poked around a long time and saw rocks that looked like rocks, and petrified wood looking stuff. So it's not like everything looked like petrified wood.
this is a pic of what I think, or hope, is petrified bark
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this is a pic of what I think, or hope, is petrified bark
this one looks like the heart of a tree that was once soggy and punky.
this one looks like the heart of a tree that was once soggy and punky.
your average run-of-the-mill chuck of what looks like petrified wood
your average run-of-the-mill chuck of what looks like petrified wood

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PostTue Aug 26, 2008 12:49 pm 
Yes, Yes, I am sure that was Lawrence of Albania. I almost mistook him for Laurence of Suburbia. wink.gif Kool trip....looking forward to "the rest of the story". agree.gif

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PostWed Aug 27, 2008 2:27 pm 
Day Two in the upper basin has now been added to the first post in the thread.

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