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Snowbrushy Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 6670 | TRs | Pics Location: South Sound |
Two hundred years ago today the first recreational nwhikers set thier boot's down on what was to become Washington State. The Corps of Discovery had rafted, ridden, and marched across the continent, and would spend a leisurely, wet winter on the N.W. coast.
http://www.historylink.org/essays/output.cfm?file_id=5323
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
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greg Member
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 11:27 am
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Not sure you could call them recreational hikers, or the first, since people had been here for more than 10,000 years. However, it is an event worth noting
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Snowbrushy Member
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:35 pm
all open to interpretation ..
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Hi Greg, It seem's to me that this forum about hiking history is a one of a kind.. I really wish that a NW historian with credentials would weigh in here. Maybe a Prof. at the UW. They could add some important infomations to this forum, and in fact might be an asset to this unique forum by being it's administrator - this being an academic subject. I love NW hiking history although I am a simple student. Some leadership here could be a good thing. (excuse me Tom).
About The Corps of Discovery: The men spent a long, boring, grey winter out here on the coast, and they had recreational interests on thier mind's to spend the time. I assume that they hiked around, they being men with an interest in exploring. There is some documentation. But, in fact hiking probably wasn't on the top of their list. Whoring around was. It got so bad that Captain Clark made all the men pick just one single native woman to spend the winter with because of 'Boston Man's' disease's that were already present from earlier seafaring explorer's.
In pre-history - who know's the first nwhiker? I don't. Maybe Kennewick Man? Maybe.
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
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Snowshoe Hare Defunct lagomorph
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Snowbrushy Member
Joined: 23 Jul 2003 Posts: 6670 | TRs | Pics Location: South Sound |
Correction. They spent most of their time thinking about getting laid.
And staying dry.
In that order I think - I'm not a historian, but it's fun.
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
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jimmymac Zip Lock Bagger
Joined: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 3705 | TRs | Pics Location: Lake Wittenmyer, WA |
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:55 pm
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I cannot think of a task any more boring than boiling sea water all day to produce salt. Dahyam, what a long winter it musta been!
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
"Profound serenity is the product of unfaltering Trust and heightened vulnerability."
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Snowshoe Hare Defunct lagomorph
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Obviously you've never had dog without a dash of salt. Musta been worth it.
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Snowbrushy Member
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:23 pm
Seaside, Or.
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The Seaside salt oven's may have been a better place to camp than the Astoria area and the fort considering the proximity of a Chinook village there with plenty of female company for a group of young men. Not boring & lot's of gal's.. (the oven's are there to visit in a back yard in Seaside, OR.)
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
Oh Pilot of the storm who leaves no trace Like thoughts inside a dream Heed the path that led me to that place Yellow desert stream.
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greg Member
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:26 pm
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Good L&C hikes: Tillamook Head at Ecola State Park near Cannon Beach, Ridgefield Wildlife Refuge north of Vancouver and Beacon Rock up in the Gorge, all places described in the journals. Also like Julia Butler Hansen Wildlife Refuge near Skamokawa, habitat of the Columbian whitetailed deer, a critter described in the journals.
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Quark Niece of Alvy Moore
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Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:40 pm
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"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate."
Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
"...Other than that, the post was more or less accurate."
Bernardo, NW Hikers' Bureau Chief of Reporting
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Snowshoe Hare Defunct lagomorph
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That's something I'd like to do one day- retrace their route. I've only seen parts of it. Fort Clatsop,Astoria,Fort Stevens, Ilwaco/Long Beach, Beacon Rock, both sides of the Gorge east to the Snake/Columbia R. confluence.
As for a rebuilt uglee Fort Clatsop maybe seeing a structure near identical to the original hastily put together rough hewn structure will make what they went through that much more impressive to visitors. I had read that the burned-down replica was constructed in a Scandinavian style which apparently wasn't close to what the original looked like. What they really need to re-examine is using Boston Whalers in place of cedar canoes in their visitor center dioramas.
Interesting that the Park Service regularily had fires going in the structure's fireplace(s) in the summer (but only teeny tiny ones ). That policy seems really really weird. Lo and behold one fire a few years ago got a little out of control and scorched a small portion of the fort. So although at first this fire seemed a no-brainer arson one, it wouldn't be too surprising to learn it was just an accident.
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greg Member
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Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:39 am
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Another very nice L&C hike I almost forgot is Horsethief Lake State Park, across from the town of The Dalles. The corps had some fun canoe rides here in The Dalles and Celilo Falls, long since inundated by dams on the Columbia. Spring flowers are intense.
I believe that is one and the same Timothy Egan, last I heard writing for the NY Times.
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