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Scrooge Famous Grouse
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6966 | TRs | Pics Location: wishful thinking |
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Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:29 am
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Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
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troutman Member
Joined: 27 Jun 2003 Posts: 89 | TRs | Pics
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Wed Dec 17, 2003 4:36 pm
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Most of the routes in this book has not been surveyed even at the time of publishing. There were still theories on how one could get from one area to the next even though it had never been done before.
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Newt Short Timer
Joined: 21 Dec 2001 Posts: 3176 | TRs | Pics Location: Down the road and around the corner |
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Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:37 pm
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Scrooge wrote: | Another un-pc cover, this one courtesy of the Mountaineers' 1974 edition of "Trips and Trails, 2".
This cover's kind of like one of those kids' puzzle pictures, "How many mistakes can you find in this picture?" |
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It's pretty safe to say that if we take all of man kinds accumulated knowledge, we still don't know everything. So, I hope you understand why I don't believe you know everything. But then again, maybe you do.
It's pretty safe to say that if we take all of man kinds accumulated knowledge, we still don't know everything. So, I hope you understand why I don't believe you know everything. But then again, maybe you do.
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Karen Member
Joined: 22 Dec 2001 Posts: 2866 | TRs | Pics
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Wed Dec 17, 2003 6:58 pm
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Camping too close to the water.
And just WHERE did they get that firewood? And why are they having such a big fire? It looks like a nice, summer evening to me.
Karen
stay together, learn the flowers, go light - from Turtle Island, Gary Snyder
stay together, learn the flowers, go light - from Turtle Island, Gary Snyder
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Scrooge Famous Grouse
Joined: 16 Dec 2001 Posts: 6966 | TRs | Pics Location: wishful thinking |
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Scrooge
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Thu Dec 18, 2003 2:31 pm
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Those are the ones that struck me, Karen, though I will camp that close to the water if I'm somewhere offtrail.
Also, although I don't think it really counts as a "mistake", I will invariably pitch my tent so that the view is visable through the entrance.
American Border Peaks and Mt Larrabee ...... as seen from inside my tent!
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
Something lost behind the ranges. Lost and waiting for you....... Go and find it. Go!
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lopper off-route
Joined: 22 Jan 2002 Posts: 845 | TRs | Pics
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Thu Dec 18, 2003 6:15 pm
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Yup. Like Scrooge said.
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JimK Member
Joined: 07 Feb 2002 Posts: 5606 | TRs | Pics Location: Ballard |
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Thu Dec 18, 2003 8:11 pm
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A vice view from the tents?
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marzsit Dork
Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 884 | TRs | Pics Location: kent, wa. |
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Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:41 pm
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lopper wrote: | Yup. Like Scrooge said. |
is that an rei crestline tent?
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touron Member
Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Posts: 10293 | TRs | Pics Location: Plymouth Rock |
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Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:48 pm
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The Crestline tent was on my gear wish list when I was little. I'm guessing it's not a Crestline as I thought the Crestline had a partial beige colored sidewall to it. The Crestline, an REI Cruiser pack, the Monarch sleeping bag. Depending on which order I added up the prices on the calculator, sometimes I could afford it and somtimes I couldn't.
One of the funkier tents they had I think was called the Highlite. It had roll up sidewalls with mosquito netting.
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
Touron is a nougat of Arabic origin made with almonds and honey or sugar, without which it would just not be Christmas in Spain.
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marzsit Dork
Joined: 29 Apr 2003 Posts: 884 | TRs | Pics Location: kent, wa. |
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Thu Dec 18, 2003 9:55 pm
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touron wrote: | The Crestline tent was on my gear wish list when I was little. I'm guessing it's not a Crestline as I thought the Crestline had a partial beige colored sidewall to it. The Crestline, an REI Cruiser pack, the Monarch sleeping bag. Depending on which order I added up the prices on the calculator, sometimes I could afford it and somtimes I couldn't.
One of the funkier tents they had I think was called the Highlite. It had roll up sidewalls with mosquito netting. |
i have a 1973 crestline (date and name tags sewn in the door seams) and it's solid orange with a solid yellow rainfly. lopper's tent looks like a crestline because of the a-frame poles and the funny round rear vent, but mine has 2 pullouts on each side, his only has one (or so it looks like it from the photo.
decent tent, but heavy by today's standards. and i'm always worried that one of the pole connectors will break and rei won't have any spares left..
the low-ender was a crestline with the rear end about 1-1/2 feet shorter and much lighter.
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#19 Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2001 Posts: 2197 | TRs | Pics
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Fri Dec 19, 2003 7:13 am
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lopper off-route
Joined: 22 Jan 2002 Posts: 845 | TRs | Pics
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Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:45 am
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marzsit:
My orange relic is an REI High-Ender. It has the old-style blue-on-white embroidered REI label---date stamped July 1971.
Many moons, many miles. That photo is from Aug 2003.
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BdCast Member
Joined: 13 May 2011 Posts: 238 | TRs | Pics Location: Washington |
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Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:29 am
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Resurrecting an old topic from 2003!
Anyone have any new information on obtaining old trail maps/guide books? Is there a web resource nowadays, or is the best way to try and track down physical copies of the original maps?
As mentioned in this thread, there were trails in the MRNP that were since dropped from current USGS Topo maps. It would be really entertaining to see these trails and learn more about what the national park used to be like before its current version.
Ive found this resource helpful, albeit very slow and I'm not sure how accurate it is... USGS Historical Map Archive
Thanks everyone!
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Hulksmash Cleaning up.
Joined: 20 Apr 2008 Posts: 7113 | TRs | Pics Location: Arlington |
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Thu Apr 07, 2016 1:37 am
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I can't comment specifically for mount rainier national park, but as web resources go USGS historical archives is decent.
Something to remember is to check the different map scales available. Not all trail made it to the most detailed scale. While it may not be possible to navigate via larger scale maps they can give a clue there may be something hidden. If you learn why a trail was built, and how they are built and located it's often easy to predict where an abandoned trail is located.
The problem i find with web resources is it often the same plagiarized blog post that has any accuracy paraphrased away.
Old books and maps trump any web resources. E Bay, and Amazon are good places to look for such items.
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
"Bears couldn't care less about us....we smell bad and don't taste too good. Bugs on the other hand see us as vending machines." - WetDog
Albuterol! it's the 11th essential
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BdCast Member
Joined: 13 May 2011 Posts: 238 | TRs | Pics Location: Washington |
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Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:47 am
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Hulksmash wrote: | I can't comment specifically for mount rainier national park, but as web resources go USGS historical archives is decent.
Something to remember is to check the different map scales available. Not all trail made it to the most detailed scale. While it may not be possible to navigate via larger scale maps they can give a clue there may be something hidden. If you learn why a trail was built, and how they are built and located it's often easy to predict where an abandoned trail is located.
The problem i find with web resources is it often the same plagiarized blog post that has any accuracy paraphrased away.
Old books and maps trump any web resources. E Bay, and Amazon are good places to look for such items. |
Okay cool. That's what I assumed but thought I'd ask. Ordered some vintage hiking book for MRNP, hopefully they have some cool maps or hints to old trails in them.
Do you happen to have any recommendations for just general Washington hiking trails books? Any vintage reading with maps that I might be interested in?
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